[Talk-us] New List: osm-professional

[Randy]

Randy wrote:

>Richard Weait wrote:
>
>>On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 8:19 PM, Serge Wroclawski
>><emacsen at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 12:19 AM, Frederik Ramm
>>><frederik at remote.org> wrote:
>>
>>>>Stop. - Are you saying that osm-professional is intended as a copy of
>>>>osm-talk just moderated?
>>>
>>>I see osm-professional as mainly focusing on a new audience of people
>>>who currently aren't subscribed to any OSM list, with a focus on
>>>people using osm in a professional context.
>>>
>>>If it's similar to any other list, it'd probably be "newbies"- but
>>>newbies is really about getting involved in the project in the sense
>>>of contributing to the project, where I see osm-professional as about
>>>people who may not want to be individual contributors but still have a
>>>connection to OSM.
>>
>>Perhaps "Newbies" is the answer.
>>Traffic is lower.
>>We try to restrain ourselves from diving into perpetual tagging, etc.,
>>discussions.
>>"Newbies" already has the expectation that questions should be
>>answered without a dose of "that's a stupid question."
>>To succeed "Newbies" needs a number of folks willing to answer
>>questions for folks not already steeped in the culture of OSM.  And a
>>number of new folks to ask questions.
>>
>>I think the expectation of acceptable behaviour is in place at
>>Newbies.  I think the demographics are so similar that no revision of
>>mandates is required.  The only thing missing is a way to make "new
>>OSM pros" think that they aren't being treated like "newbies", because
>>obviously, the are professionals.
>>
>>ln -s newbies osm-professional   # enh?  See what I did there?
>
>I sure don't understand what all the fuss is about. If there was an NTTP
>group where I didn't agree with the management process, I just wouldn't
>join it. Is the fuss because it has "openstreetmap" in its name? Maybe it
>should just be gmane.comp.gis.professionals_interested_in_mapping. Surely
>no one is so dictatorial about anarchy that they couldn't stomach that!

Woops. NNTP

Sorry Richard, by replying to your message, it looks like I was slamming 
your idea. I didn't intend to be negative about a constructive idea, even 
though I don't agree with it. From what I understand (which is no more 
than anyone else and less than some) I suspect the demographics are not at 
all the same. I would suspect that osm-professional would be significantly 
more directed toward use of the data than creating data.

But then, I'm not the anarchist that went off and did my own thing by 
creating the group, so I shouldn't be making assumptions.

-- 
Randy