[Talk-us] Street Naming Conventions

[Dale Puch]

Do "Old Olive Street Rd" and "Old Olive St Rd" have overlapping street
numbers?
No, then the street number distinguishes location.
If Yes then do the rest of the address match up?
No this time then the rest of the address distinguishes location.
If Yes again, someone messed up the street naming.

Unless someone messed up, either one should work.  If it is a continous
road, I would standardize on one name.  Personally I would use "Old Olive
Street Rd"

As far as searches go, the engine just needs to be smart enough to try
matching the various full words and abbreviations, and offer a choice if
more than one results turn up.

Dale


On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 8:29 PM, Nathan Oliver <oliver.nathan at gmail.com>wrote:

> I happen to know the answer to this one.  I'll save Brett the trouble of
> replying again, and point you to an earlier explanation in this thread.
> (Though being so long, I don't blame you for not seeing it the first
> time around.)
>
> http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-us/2010-April/003087.html
>
> It seems really odd to me, too, but it's not the first time customs have
> developed in odd ways...
>
> Nathan Oliver
>
> On 5/17/2010 7:01 PM, Nathan Edgars II wrote:
> > Dale Puch wrote:
> >
> >> On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 4:44 PM, Nathan Edgars II <neroute2 at
> gmail.com>wrote:
> >>
> >>> Lord-Castillo, Brett wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> But another good one close to us is "Old Olive Street Rd" and "Old
> Olive
> >>>> St Rd" (both official names for different sections of the road). These
> two
> >>>> streets run parallel to Olive St, Olive Street Rd, and Olive Blvd (all
> three
> >>>> of these are different roads).
> >>>>
> >>> So if "Old Olive Street Rd" and "Old Olive St Rd" are different, how
> >>> do you distinguish them in speech? Or are they actually
> >>> interchangeable names, as would seem logical (in other words, one or
> >>> the other may be "official", but both are unambiguous and correct for
> >>> all practical purposes)?
> >>>
> >> If "Old Olive Street Rd" and "Old Olive St Rd" are one road, ie.
> connected
> >> and not and a corner.  Then things that may explain it are different
> >> addresses where they intersect, or if they are in different
> jurisdictions.
> >> Like where two cities meet.  But if the addressing continues between the
> >> different names, then it seem one sign is wrong.  I personally think
> "Old
> >> Olive Street Rd" should be used, and only cardinal direction prefix and
> type
> >> suffix abbreviated.  The rest being the core name.
> >>
> > I'm not sure what you mean - if you tell someone "I live at 50 Old
> > Olive Street Rd", how is that any different from "I live at 50 Old
> > Olive St Rd"? (Obviously one would need to specify which city the
> > address is in, if the "official" name changes at the city line. But,
> > without the city name, neither of those statements, even written,
> > would be truly unambiguous, since the reader can't assume the chosen
> > Street or St is identical to the "official" usage. In fact, if we do
> > name these segments differently, it could cause more confusion, since
> > someone typing one might be taken to the "official" match when they
> > wanted the other one and didn't realize they were "officially"
> > different.)
> >
> > As for abbreviations, there's no consistent way to abbreviate. Around
> > here, you'll see Parkway, Pkwy, Pky, and Py all used for the same
> > road. And directional prefixes are part of the address, appearing
> > above the block number in a separate square on street signs.
> >
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