[Talk-us] Highway Tagging Consensus to Improve OSM (and address some of 41 latitude's concerns)

Anthony osm at inbox.org
Tue Oct 19 20:37:53 BST 2010

On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 3:21 PM, Alex Mauer <hawke at hawkesnest.net> wrote:
> And I agree that street relations are a better option in the long run, if a
> little silly for the majority of cases where a street consists of a single
> way (and also a usability nightmare in editors).  But I also don’t think
> that removing the names from every way in the hopes that someone will notice
> the problem and fix the renderer would be the right way to go.

I certainly wouldn't recommend removing the names from the ways until
you have the names in the relations.  At the point where you do, sure,
they should be removed.  The idea that no one will ever create a
renderer which uses the names in the relations is ludicrous.  It would
be trivial to write a preparser to take the names from the street
relations and stick them on the ways, which could then be fed right
back into a stupid renderer that knows nothing about relations.  This
wouldn't be a particularly good solution, but it'd get you back to
where you were tagging the ways (with the improvement that the tags
for a single route would be consistent), and it could be written in a
couple hours, probably much less by anyone who knows anything about
how the renderer works.

> No matter how much you may wish it were otherwise, part of the current
> standard system is to apply ref=* to the ways which make up the route. Once
> the route relation is better, I’m sure people will start using that instead,
> and stop using the current system.

What about the route relation needs to be improved?

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