[Talk-us] OpenTripPlanner Final Report

Paul Johnson baloo at ursamundi.org
Mon Sep 5 23:13:33 BST 2011


So far, the only ways that I'm aware of that use bicycle=designated are
already neighborhood greenways.

On Mon, 2011-09-05 at 13:53 -0700, PJ Houser wrote:
>         Message: 1
>         Date: Sun, 04 Sep 2011 07:32:42 -0400
>         From: Mike N <niceman at att.net>
>         To: talk-us at openstreetmap.org
>         Subject: Re: [Talk-us] OpenTripPlanner Final Report
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>         On 9/3/2011 11:44 PM, Nathan Edgars II wrote:
>         >> 58: have you considered putting an RFC out on
>         cycleway=shared_lane to
>         >> get some discussion going around the tag?
>         >
>         > Every main lane where bikes are allowed is a shared lane.
>         Presumably the
>         > intent is the indicate where there's a shared lane
>         *marking*, i.e. a
>         > sharrow.
>         
>           There was a lengthy discussion on how to best mark sharrows,
>         and it
>         seemed to trend toward "bicycle=designated" which the OTP
>         router is using.
> 
> Mike, 
> 
> Our version of OTP is only using bicycle=designated for
> paths/footways/pedestrian/cycleway because of the lack of objective
> criteria (such as signs or sharrows). It will eventually, but we felt
> that cycleway=shared_lane is most appropriate for roads with sharrows.
> In Portland, all "greenways" (what used to be called bike boulevards -
> http://www.portlandonline.com/transportation/index.cfm?c=50518&a=348902) will be signed with sharrows. There are roads that are called bike routes by the regional agency but don't have any markings, so we used our local tag RLIS:bicycle=designated for this. As for bicycle=designated, we only use that on non-motorized ways because of the controversy and occasional edit wars for highway=path/cycleway/footway. The bicycle=designated/yes means that the way can be switched between footway or path or pedestrian or whatever the editors want, but the OTP router will still know that bicycles are intended/allowed on the way. I'm not sure if any of the other OTP routers have gone live yet, so I don't know where bicycle=designated is being used elsewhere. I'm definitely interested in knowing because this is a discussion we've had a lot - how to mark different levels of bicycle safety.
> 
>         Message: 8
>         Date: Sat, 03 Sep 2011 23:44:55 -0400
>         From: Nathan Edgars II <neroute2 at gmail.com>
>         To: talk-us at openstreetmap.org
>         Subject: Re: [Talk-us] OpenTripPlanner Final Report
>         Message-ID: <4E62F437.5050903 at gmail.com>
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>         
>         On 9/3/2011 11:23 PM, Josh Doe wrote:
>         > 58: have you considered putting an RFC out on
>         cycleway=shared_lane to
>         > get some discussion going around the tag?
>         
>         Every main lane where bikes are allowed is a shared lane.
>         Presumably the
>         intent is the indicate where there's a shared lane *marking*,
>         i.e. a
>         sharrow.
> 
> Nathan,
> 
> It appears that the proposed feature cycleway=shared_lane is defined
> as "roads which contain a shared lane marking, or sharrow, to indicate
> that the travel lane is shared by bicycles and other
> vehicles" (http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/shared_lane).
> 
> Josh and Martjin,
> 
> Thanks for the input!
> 
> --
> PJ Houser
> Trimet
> GIS intern
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