[Talk-us] OpenTripPlanner Final Report
Paul Johnson
baloo at ursamundi.org
Mon Sep 5 23:13:33 BST 2011
So far, the only ways that I'm aware of that use bicycle=designated are
already neighborhood greenways.
On Mon, 2011-09-05 at 13:53 -0700, PJ Houser wrote:
> Message: 1
> Date: Sun, 04 Sep 2011 07:32:42 -0400
> From: Mike N <niceman at att.net>
> To: talk-us at openstreetmap.org
> Subject: Re: [Talk-us] OpenTripPlanner Final Report
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> On 9/3/2011 11:44 PM, Nathan Edgars II wrote:
> >> 58: have you considered putting an RFC out on
> cycleway=shared_lane to
> >> get some discussion going around the tag?
> >
> > Every main lane where bikes are allowed is a shared lane.
> Presumably the
> > intent is the indicate where there's a shared lane
> *marking*, i.e. a
> > sharrow.
>
> There was a lengthy discussion on how to best mark sharrows,
> and it
> seemed to trend toward "bicycle=designated" which the OTP
> router is using.
>
> Mike,
>
> Our version of OTP is only using bicycle=designated for
> paths/footways/pedestrian/cycleway because of the lack of objective
> criteria (such as signs or sharrows). It will eventually, but we felt
> that cycleway=shared_lane is most appropriate for roads with sharrows.
> In Portland, all "greenways" (what used to be called bike boulevards -
> http://www.portlandonline.com/transportation/index.cfm?c=50518&a=348902) will be signed with sharrows. There are roads that are called bike routes by the regional agency but don't have any markings, so we used our local tag RLIS:bicycle=designated for this. As for bicycle=designated, we only use that on non-motorized ways because of the controversy and occasional edit wars for highway=path/cycleway/footway. The bicycle=designated/yes means that the way can be switched between footway or path or pedestrian or whatever the editors want, but the OTP router will still know that bicycles are intended/allowed on the way. I'm not sure if any of the other OTP routers have gone live yet, so I don't know where bicycle=designated is being used elsewhere. I'm definitely interested in knowing because this is a discussion we've had a lot - how to mark different levels of bicycle safety.
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Sat, 03 Sep 2011 23:44:55 -0400
> From: Nathan Edgars II <neroute2 at gmail.com>
> To: talk-us at openstreetmap.org
> Subject: Re: [Talk-us] OpenTripPlanner Final Report
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> On 9/3/2011 11:23 PM, Josh Doe wrote:
> > 58: have you considered putting an RFC out on
> cycleway=shared_lane to
> > get some discussion going around the tag?
>
> Every main lane where bikes are allowed is a shared lane.
> Presumably the
> intent is the indicate where there's a shared lane *marking*,
> i.e. a
> sharrow.
>
> Nathan,
>
> It appears that the proposed feature cycleway=shared_lane is defined
> as "roads which contain a shared lane marking, or sharrow, to indicate
> that the travel lane is shared by bicycles and other
> vehicles" (http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/shared_lane).
>
> Josh and Martjin,
>
> Thanks for the input!
>
> --
> PJ Houser
> Trimet
> GIS intern
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