[Talk-us] a reminder for armchair mappers

Evin Fairchild evindfair at gmail.com
Fri Dec 6 21:23:04 UTC 2013


Putting notes in the tags may be helpful, but in the "simple" tagging mode
in P2 (does anyone still use that? I do, b/c I don't like iD), you can't
see them and some mapper might not get the message in the note. Personally,
pretty much all my edits are armchair mapping, but it's generally in my
local area, so I often have knowledge of things on the ground before I go
adding or deleting it from OSM.

-Compdude


On Fri, Dec 6, 2013 at 10:01 AM, Natfoot <natfoot at gmail.com> wrote:

> I also agree that putting notes in the tags are helpful to some of us that
> are armchair mappers.  I will see the tags sooner than the history data. I
> tend to map around railroads using the imagery and Tiger data and tags.
> -Nathan
>
>
> On Fri, Dec 6, 2013 at 9:29 AM, Martijn van Exel <m at rtijn.org> wrote:
>
>> That is a great point and something I feel strongly about, having
>> created armchair mapper's tools like Battle Grid and Maproulette.
>>
>> I will make some time to put in a warning notice into these tools that
>> would pop up the first time folks use it. What would a good, concise,
>> cautionary note look like?
>>
>> On Fri, Dec 6, 2013 at 9:08 AM, Richard Welty <rwelty at averillpark.net>
>> wrote:
>> > if you see a discrepancy between aerial imagery and OSM, before you
>> > go adding/changing stuff, check on the history of the stuff that's there
>> > and see if another mapper has worked on things recently (for some
>> > value of recently.) i have done a bunch of work in the past month
>> > adding in a new traffic circle on US 4 in Rensselaer County, NY,
>> > using GPS traces. as part of the process,  i removed a slip ramp
>> > from I-90 that was taken out by DOT when they built the new
>> > circle. i just now discovered that another mapper added the slip
>> > ramp back in, presumably because it's in the Bing imagery, which
>> > is at this point 2 or 3 years old.
>> >
>> > this isn't the first time i've been through this; a year or so back
>> > a couple of armchair mappers repeatedly changed a part of Troy
>> > to match obsolete imagery and i kept having to ask them not to
>> > and put back in the recent changes. i now put README tags on
>> > the ways but if i delete something i have no place to put a
>> > README tag.
>> >
>> > imagery goes out of date. armchair mappers must never forget
>> > that. if the imagery doesn't match the map, contact a local mapper
>> > if you can identify one. you could be fixing something that wasn't
>> > actually broken.
>> >
>> > thanks,
>> >    richard
>> >
>> >
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