[Talk-us] ref tags
steveaOSM at softworkers.com
Wed Feb 13 08:59:51 GMT 2013
Thank you, Paul: not only do I stand corrected, I am glad to be
corrected (improved, really) in this way. (I did know, in fact, the
number to be greater than "fifty something.") I only "planted the
seed," and you more fully grew the tree of this particular truth. I,
too, am not sure of a more accurate number, only that it is somewhere
between "fifty something" and "200+."
Native reservations still seem to be a not-completely-settled issue
as to admin_level value, I do wish the OSM community could reach more
harmonious agreement here. Discussions like this, which really only
scratch surfaces, are a good start.
I see persuasive arguments for either admin_level=1 (for the
US-Canada border stragglers?) or 3 for most or all of these regions.
Perhaps an OSM wiki discussion can be started, continued or
resurrected. Or maybe a new thread. A new thread should change
Subject away from "ref tags." Also, talk-us may or may not be a
correct forum for this discussion.
I did recently (Volume 62, Issue 1) start a discussion in talk-us
about admin_level which turned into contributions in the wiki page
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:Minh_Nguyen cleaned up by
"drawing off" further discussion to
(thank you Minh). That (or a new section in it) may be an
appropriate place to continue a discussion of native reservations in
the US being assigned an admin_level of 1, 3 or some other value. Or
even something else we may agree to do.
>On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 1:18 PM, stevea
><<mailto:steveaOSM at softworkers.com>steveaOSM at softworkers.com> wrote:
>In other words, New York is just as sovereign as is New Zealand,
>South Dakota is as much a nation-state as South Korea. I am not an
>attorney, but I can read. This makes for 51 independent
>jurisdictions: the fifty states and the United States at a federal
>level. (There might be "fifty-something" independent jurisdictions
>if we include DC, Puerto Rico, American Samoa, US Virgin Islands...
>but all of those extras are really separate areas of the single
>"federal state"). The latter (the federal USA) is, legally
>speaking, absolutely distinct from each of the former (the sovereign
>fifty states). Let OSM properly reflect that.
>More like 200+, actually. Indian nations are usually above the
>state level, below the US level, with a few exceptions that stand
>independent straddling the US/Canada border. These aren't mapped
>yet, mostly because suggestions to use administrative boundary
>levels 3 and 1 as default levels most tribes and the border
>stragglers have either gone ignored or shot down.
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