[Talk-us] Mappy Hour

Ian Dees ian.dees at gmail.com
Tue Jul 2 01:56:21 UTC 2013

On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 8:39 PM, stevea <steveaOSM at softworkers.com> wrote:

> **
> It's that Monday again!
> Virtual Mappy Hour tonight.
> Be there or be shape=square.
> https://plus.google.com/events/c5lg5p742h9v8gu1jkp8n9hkkig
> I would like to, but I cannot agree to Google's Terms of Service.
> Notably, I agree to give certain rights to contributions of mine to
> OpenStreetMap, but I cannot agree to give to Google everything Google
> characterizes as "My Content" in a Google Hangout.  So, I may lurk, but I
> will not participate.

Every service that carries your content will have a similar clause in their
Terms of Use because (I imagine) their lawyers tell them without such a
clause they can't transmit your content from your computer to others.

> I know this has been raised as an issue here before, but are we any closer
> to answering:  Is there an online (audio/video) venue which has less
> onerous Terms of Service than Google's?  A way to technologically solve a
> delightfully impromptu meeting like this without using a corporate host
> that insists upon taking from us everything we discuss within its digital
> domain?

No, there is nothing that comes close to the Google Hangout service. You
don't have to sign in to Google to view the YouTube stream that accompanies
these hangouts, we just have to make sure and post the YouTube link every
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