[Talk-us] ref tags

[Paul Johnson]

http://www.dot.state.tx.us/tpp/hwy/fmfacts.htm  Texas refers to the network
as Farm/Ranch to Market or Farm to Market, except Ranch Road 1 and NASA
Road 1 (both of which are part of single-route networks, because Texas).
 The last fact I would correct to say "currently" since Oklahoma formerly
had Farm-to-Market roads, every now and then I find a long-abandoned
farm-to-market reference in the name*=* tags tiger imported in rural
Oklahoma.  The TxDOT's official glossary identify Urban Road, Farm to
Market and Ranch to Market identically, and an Urban Road as an FM/RM
running through an urban area.
http://www.txdot.gov/inside-txdot/division/transportation-planning/highway-designation/glossary.html


Using the TxDOT search system, there seems to be a lot of bikeshedding
within the department on request of locals who want a Farm to Market to be
a Ranch to Market or Urban Road or vice-versa-et-cetra and nothing to
suggest that FM/RM/UR are three different networks.


On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 11:23 AM, Clay Smalley <claysmalley at gmail.com>wrote:

> I checked the Wikipedia page and couldn't find anything. Could you do me a
> favor and point me to the part of the article you're referring to, and/or
> the cited source?
>
> I'd rather solve this without more mailing list drama, if possible.
> On Jun 20, 2013 9:06 AM, "Paul Johnson" <baloo at ursamundi.org> wrote:
>
>> Check the Farm-to-market page on Wikipedia.
>> On Jun 19, 2013 11:00 PM, "Clay Smalley" <claysmalley at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Does the Wikipedia bit have a cited source? I can understand that being
>>> true; I just want to verify. The Texas Highway Designation Files list them
>>> as two separate types.
>>> On Jun 19, 2013 8:25 PM, "Paul Johnson" <baloo at ursamundi.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> TxDOT is cited in Wikipedia as documenting them as being the same
>>>> network (farm to market), and no RM and FM have the same number.  They just
>>>> change the sign to RM when the route primarily passes through ranches
>>>> instead of farms.  According to TxDOT, there is exactly one "Ranch Road",
>>>> being RR 1, the rest are "farm to market."  It's definitely one of the more
>>>> confusing aspects of the Texas highway system, sort of like the nebulous
>>>> distinction between Park Roads and Rec Roads.
>>>> On Jun 19, 2013 5:22 PM, "Clay Smalley" <claysmalley at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> It's US:TX:FM for FM roads, and US:TX:RM for RM roads. There may be
>>>>> little to no overlap between RM and FM, and they may serve the same
>>>>> purpose, but I see no need to go through them all and change all of them to
>>>>> one network. They are different networks according to the state of Texas.
>>>>> On Jun 19, 2013 12:52 PM, "Paul Johnson" <baloo at ursamundi.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Curious if the network for RM and FM is consistently US:TX:FM for
>>>>>> both, since they're both part of the same network.
>>>>>> On Jun 19, 2013 10:52 AM, "Clay Smalley" <claysmalley at gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Fortunately most of Texas has been done, but unfortunately the FM/RM
>>>>>>> roads haven't been completed and there are quite a lot of them. I made a
>>>>>>> Mapcraft to help add relations to them all:
>>>>>>> http://mapcraft.nanodesu.ru/pie/269
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I've made a little progress in the Texas Panhandle but we definitely
>>>>>>> need more people to help out if it's gonna get done.
>>>>>>> On Jun 19, 2013 7:39 AM, "Paul Johnson" <baloo at ursamundi.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 12:21 PM, Martijn van Exel <m at rtijn.org>wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Also, how is the situation on the state level? I notice that for
>>>>>>>>> some states, there are no State Route relation pages. (
>>>>>>>>> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/United_States_Numbered_Highway_Relations#See_also
>>>>>>>>> )
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'm working on Oklahoma right now and keeping it documented.
>>>>>>>>  Progress has been slow since I'm not satisfied in just slapping down
>>>>>>>> relations, I'm checking each highway for continuity and connectivity as I
>>>>>>>> go along.  I've been going somewhat sequentially but if I come across a
>>>>>>>> state highway I know goes through but things refuse to route down it while
>>>>>>>> I'm working, I'll go through and fine-tooth-comb it when I get back (as I'm
>>>>>>>> doing with OK 48 right now).
>>>>>>>>
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