[Talk-us] Future Interstate Relations

James Mast rickmastfan67 at hotmail.com
Thu Jun 27 04:01:42 UTC 2013


There are two Interstate Business Routes in Winslow, AZ for I-40 that intersect each other.
I-40 Business Spur http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/1933534
I-40 Business Loop http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/1933535
 
-James
 
Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2013 21:41:06 -0500
From: baloo at ursamundi.org
To: rickmastfan67 at hotmail.com
CC: m at rtijn.org; talk-us at openstreetmap.org
Subject: Re: [Talk-us] Future Interstate Relations

Modifier would be able to handle both situations, but is there a situation where a business loop or spur with the same number meet that would necessitate getting to that level of specificity?


On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 9:34 PM, James Mast <rickmastfan67 at hotmail.com> wrote:




I thought the "modifier" would be the type of Business route?  Remember, we do have "Business Spurs" and "Business Loops" for Interstate highways.  Sometimes both types in the same city.

 
-James
 
Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2013 20:06:58 -0500
From: baloo at ursamundi.org

To: rickmastfan67 at hotmail.com
CC: m at rtijn.org; talk-us at openstreetmap.org

Subject: Re: [Talk-us] Future Interstate Relations

That'd be modifier=Business, no?  US:US has no lower level, unlike say, US:TX, which has US:TX:FM* or US:OK, which would also contain US:OK:Turnpike (Oklahoma's secondary toll highway system) or a county, like US:CA:San_Bernardino, or a city, like US:OK:Tulsa:Tulsa...



On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 5:49 PM, James Mast <rickmastfan67 at hotmail.com> wrote:




Wouldn't the Business routes of Interstates count as 'children'?

 
From: m at rtijn.org

Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2013 10:07:52 -0600
To: baloo at ursamundi.org
CC: rickmastfan67 at hotmail.com; talk-us at openstreetmap.org


Subject: Re: [Talk-us] Future Interstate Relations

But that would not apply to the Interstate network, which otherwise has no 'children', right?

If the modifier paradigm also applies to State Routes, then there would be the possibility of confusion between US:UT:Future as a future state route and US:UT:Future as a county highway in 'Future County'. I guess it is imaginable. Not likely, but imaginable.





On Tue, Jun 25, 2013 at 8:50 AM, Paul Johnson <baloo at ursamundi.org> wrote:


I prefer the modifier proposal, since it prevents "Future" from being confused with a county level network. 




On Jun 24, 2013 11:16 PM, "James Mast" <rickmastfan67 at hotmail.com> wrote:












Later tonight, I'm planning on splitting up the relations for the following Interstates (I-26, I-73, I-74) in North Carolina to separate the segments of said Interstates into normal and the parts that are posted as "Future". (will also update the ref tags on the ways since they are still being used too)





 
Now, the "Future" ones will only be for segments that have signage clearly stating they are "Future Interstates".  I'm not going to be doing anything like this for ones signed as "Future Interstate Corridors".  The signage has to be like the following to qualify (blame different NCDOT divisions for the different styles):





I-26: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v645/rickmastfan67/Interstates/NC/I-26/Img_2043s.jpg





I-73: http://goo.gl/maps/G0qOG
I-74: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v645/rickmastfan67/Interstates/NC/I-74/P1030940s.jpg





I-840: http://goo.gl/maps/K20Hs
Now, I'm going to initially use the following to tag the "Future" segments inside of relations:




network=US:I:Future However, somebody else suggested this:
network=US:I modifier=Future Which do you guys think would be the better way to go?  I can always change the relation tags later once we all agree on a proper tagging scheme for these types of Interstates that aren't true Interstates just yet.




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