[Talk-us] Oklahoma disaster mapping

Paul Johnson baloo at ursamundi.org
Wed May 22 04:19:19 UTC 2013

This will need to be live-mapped to some degree as people get word.  I'm
struggling with a better approach given the unique situation this presents,
especially since the next Oklahoma NAIP isn't due to fly for a few more

On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 10:46 PM, Mike Thompson <miketho16 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Paul,
> I would like to help , but I need some guidance.  I assume we don't want
> to map what existed before the disaster (what currently shows up on Bing
> Imagery).  However, I see that some people are tracing buildings that they
> believe survived.  Are we supposed to map the current situation?  If so,
> given the near impossibility of a ground survey, and no current imagery
> (forgive me if I missed an earlier message), how are we supposed to map?
>  From news reports?  Given that the current situation is some what
> transient (roads will be reopened, homes will be rebuilt, etc), do we
> really want to map the exact current conditions?
> I am not trying to be difficult, just want to make a positive
> contribution, and not do something that someone else will have to spend
> effort to undo.
> Thanks,
> Mike
> On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 8:50 PM, Paul Johnson <baloo at ursamundi.org> wrote:
>> OK, I'm trying to get started on disaster mapping in the Moore area
>> following the storm, since we're talking about a 22 mile track that is
>> affecting navigation and basic mobility in a long swath at the primary
>> egress to a major metro, not to mention everyday navigation for people
>> working and doing business in that suburb.  Cleanup is still basically not
>> even started, and in several cases, buildings were wholly wiped out
>> including the concrete slab.
>> So far, the only thing I know concretely would be the general outline of
>> the disaster area (something I forwarded earlier that got sent to me via
>> okgis, hopefully it got delivered to the list, if not it's still caught in
>> moderation), that "moore area" I 35 ramps are open only to emergency
>> traffic, and many surface streets are open only to emergency traffic.  I
>> haven't been able to find out specifics (news reports have been vague, even
>> OklaDOT isn't specifying which I35 exits and normally they're unbelievably
>> specific), and I can't do a land survey, for obvious reasons (City of Moore
>> is asking everyone to stay back unless they want to go clean up the
>> cemetery tomorrow morning, even residents aren't being allowed into the
>> disaster area).
>> Any specific information and tagging suggestions would be greatly
>> appreciated; I recommend people using JOSM grab the geochat plugin to help
>> coordinate mapping effort (or at least keep an eyeball out for other
>> mappers working the area).
>> Rough bounding box for the affected area (plus some margin of error):
>> 35.2181365, -97.7075958
>> 35.3918488, -97.3526001
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