[Talk-us] Burning Man old data, publicity opportunity

[Dale Puch]

A bit off topic here, but all the tools for making and running an OSM
database are available and opensource.
I'm not sure if it is a good or bad idea for OSM but other layers of data
could be developed and stored on other servers.  That would keep OSM
focused, but allow for more esoteric datasets to be layered on top of it.
My vision of that is having the tools and rendering pulling data from both
datasets, but it could also just use the OSM tile server with the extra
dataset rendered on top.
Licensing compatibility/compliance would have to be observed if it used any
OSM data or overlays vs. a clean dataset.

Dale Puch


On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 1:54 PM, Martijn van Exel
<martijn at openstreetmap.us>wrote:

>
> On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 11:07 AM, Richard Weait <richard at weait.com> wrote:
>
>> Secondly, OpenStreetMap data is supposed to be current, rather than
>> historical.  There is a separate mailing list for those with an
>> interest in OpenStreetMap and historical objects.  The two older
>> version of BM map are an exception in OpenStreetMap data, and
>> sometimes lead to confusion on that matter.
>>
>
> Richard is correct, but I want to expand a little on the term
> 'historical'. Data that has been mapped in OSM but deleted since is gone
> from the map, but still in the database. It is not easy to get it out, but
> it can be done. There are 'full history planet dumps'[1] that contain every
> version of every node, way and relation that have ever existed in OSM -
> including things that are long gone. If Burning Man artifacts were tagged
> consistently, you could use a tool like osmium / osmjs to extract them.
>
> I agree with both Richard and Serge that we should not purposely map
> things that are not there, are ephemeral in nature, or keep things on the
> map that are gone in reality. Burning Man, to my mind, represents an edge
> case - it's a big event, people build stuff, it has a distinct geographical
> presence even if for a short time. I'd love to see it mapped but also
> deleted afterwards, as should the old BM sites in OSM.
>
> [1] http://planet.openstreetmap.org/planet/full-history/
> [2] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Osmium
>
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