[Talk-us] Fwd: USBRS WikiProject seeks volunteer mappers

[Jason Remillard]

Hi,

Bike Route 1 on Cape Cod, MA is signed. I saw a bunch of them last
summer biking around on vacation.

In my opinion at this point the new routes should go through the
import process, but given that signs are already up, and over time
more are sure to come, I don't see any problem having the data in OSM.

Jason

On Sun, Jun 1, 2014 at 6:30 AM, Serge Wroclawski <emacsen at gmail.com> wrote:
> Russ,
>
> My opinion is that this is a single data source issue. Unlike other
> data that we collect, there is nothing in the ground indicating the
> existence of this as a route. There's no sign indicating where the
> route is, so there's be no way to collect this data other than by
> looking at an external dataset and either importing or tracing.
>
> I think that's an import, because it's taking external data and
> applying it to OSM without even the potential for ground validation.
>
> I did mess up in that I needed to have stated, and will state now,
> that I was not talking from the position of the DWG.
>
>
> We have a lot of data that we could include in OSM that would be
> useful. Every so often someone wants to add property lines. I think
> those would be potentially interesting, but unsurveyable. These bike
> routes are similar. There's nothing on the ground that tells you that
> you're on the particular bus route- which means that the only
> definitive answer we could have about a bus route is some external
> dataset. If two OSMers disagree, the answer will always be "What does
> the original data say?" - rather than "What does the ground look
> like?" - right?
>
> I think that this kind of data doesn't belong in OSM. It's not
> something that lends itself well to OSM. It think it could be mixed in
> during rendering or for routing, but it doesn't belong in OSM proper.
>
> The issue of tracing vs importing is orthogonal to this question.
>
> - Serge
>
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