[Talk-us] Fwd: USBRS WikiProject seeks volunteer mappers

[Kerry Irons]

Just a point of clarification for everyone:  AASHTO does not choose US
Bicycle Routes.  The state Departments of Transportation develop the routes,
typically in cooperation with bicycle advocacy groups and with the specific
agreement of local road agencies where the route is not on state controlled
roads, streets or trails.  The DOT submits a map and turn-by-turn
instructions as part of their application to AASHTO.  AASHTO makes sure that
the proposed route number is appropriate within the national USBR corridor
plan but does NOT choose the roads, streets, or trails.

Choices of routes are influenced by a number of factors, and sometimes the
route that most bicyclists agree would be the best is not chosen due to
local road agency concerns.  Likewise a route that many bicyclists would not
prefer is used because it connects other portions of the route that have
highly desirable features.  Every route is a compromise between directness,
road quality, scenic features, traffic density, access to amenities, etc.


Kerry Irons
Adventure Cycling Association

-----Original Message-----
From: Russ Nelson [mailto:nelson at crynwr.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2014 1:04 AM
To: talk-us at openstreetmap.org
Subject: Re: [Talk-us] Fwd: USBRS WikiProject seeks volunteer mappers

Simon Poole writes:
 > Am 02.06.2014 06:28, schrieb Russ Nelson:
 > > ..................................... Let's say that I follow this  > >
route on my bicycle using a cue sheet and keep a GPS track. Then I load  > >
my GPS track into JOSM and create a relation and call it USBRS #47 (or  > >
whatever). How is this an import??
 > >
 > While not quite what you intended,

No, that's exactly what I intended. I think that nobody would be complaining
if I did the above. How, then, does it suddenly become an import if I skip
the step where I bicycled the portion of the route I am entering? I cannot
see how it does.

I'm not arguing about the quality of the route chosen by AASHTO. Maybe they
did a good job, maybe they didn't. I'm saying that the negative
characteristics of an import are completely absent from this project:
>   o imports create a whole new set of nodes.
>   o imports can have copyright issues.
>   o imports can be non-human-scale.
>   o imports can be data dumps that don't get maintained.
>   o imports make bulk changes to the database.

If an import is completely signed in every case, that doesn't solve any of
the problems caused by an import.

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