[Talk-us] ODBL for Spatial Analysis

[William Morris]

Thanks, Alex. I hadn't known about sections 4.5b and 4.5c before;
that's really helpful to have a sense of the distinction between
"derivative database" and "produced work".

And indeed, I've worked through my city's building import
(http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/BTV-Prints), and look forward to
continuing contributions to OSM!

-B

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William Morris | Senior Visualization Engineer
Faraday Inc | faraday.io | (802)-458-0441 x336 | SF/VT/FR/WI


On Fri, Jun 6, 2014 at 4:58 PM, Alex Barth <alex at mapbox.com> wrote:
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> On Mon, May 26, 2014 at 5:51 PM, Richard Weait <richard at weait.com> wrote:
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>> On Sat, May 24, 2014 at 11:40 AM, William Morris
>> <wboykinm at geosprocket.com> wrote:
>> > Please let me know if I should direct this at a different list, but I
>> > have a basic question about the implications of the ODBL:
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>> > OSM is brimming with great POIs and network features; I'd like to use
>> > some of these categories to answer broad questions like "How far is
>> > this customer from the nearest park/school/whatever"? Unfortunately,
>> > I'm not precisely sure of my legal obligation once I've answered that
>> > question. Specifically, would I be required to contribute the location
>> > of the customer back to OSM? If not, does that still hold when I
>> > upscale it to millions of customers?
>> >
>> > Thanks for the assistance, in any case. I know this is a somewhat
>> > contentious issue for the community, and I'd rather not make any
>> > assumptions.
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>> ODbL isn't contentious among OpenStreetMap contributors at all.  We've
>> all agreed to ODbL as a matter of course, in getting our contributor
>> accounts. Sounds like you've been mislead by somebody with a bone to
>> pick.  Ignore them.  :-)
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>> The right mailing list for license-realted questions or discussions is
>> legal-talk@[1]
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>> On the face of your question, I would be surprised if OpenStreetMap
>> would want to know the current location of an individual.  That seems
>> to fly in the face of the respect for individual privacy that
>> OpenStreetMap demonstrates.  I've presumed that your customer is a
>> person, as they go about their day.  That presumption could be way off
>> base.
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>> It could go the other way, I suppose.  If your customer is a business
>> or POI that isn't included in OpenStreetMap, well then, yes
>> OpenStreetMap would like that data.
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> For the terms of the license it doesn't matter what data is interesting for
> OpenStreetMap or not at all, but rather what licensing terms apply. If you
> create data by computation based on OpenStreetMap data you are clearly
> creating a Produced Work and the data is unencumbered by the share alike
> provisions.
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> Of course, if you have awesome data for OpenStreetMap, please contribute!
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> Alex
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