[Talk-us] Tagging National Forests

[Russell Deffner]

Hi everyone,

Disclaimer - I do have a degree in forestry, but only loosely continue to follow the field.  I would agree with the camp that says 'no' to landuse=forest broadly used for all National Forests.  I think someone said 'because you can pick up sticks, etc. for campfires' but this is not true across all National Forests; here is what the USFS says about it: http://www.fs.fed.us/specialuses/special_products.shtml - basically it is up to the unit; so taking the example of Pike National Forest near me, they do require a permit and only allow fuelwood collection (and other harvesting, like Christmas trees) in designated areas: http://www.fs.usda.gov/detail/psicc/passes-permits/forestproducts/?cid=fsm9_032545 - also get more restrictive when you consider the 'wilderness' designations that are contained within Pike.

In general, I suggest we use protected area and only mark designated areas where timber harvesting is allowed as landuse=forest.

=Russ

-----Original Message-----
From: James Umbanhowar [mailto:jumbanho at gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015 1:25 PM
To: talk-us at openstreetmap.org
Subject: Re: [Talk-us] Tagging National Forests

I've used natural=woods for areas formerly in agriculture that were not
naturally growing in with trees.  This seemed more appropriate than
forest as they are not really being managed for harvest.

I could go either way on the National Forest tagging issue.  While
technically they are managed as forests, they are certainly internally
quite heterogenuous in terms of the landuse to the point where many
areas are not actually being managed as tree growing areas.

James

On Mon, 2015-08-17 at 21:06 +0200, Wolfgang Zenker wrote:
> 
> Assuming we keep landuse=forest for the National Forests, what would
> you suggest we use to tag the areas that are actually covered by 
> trees?
> And how should we render these so they can be seen as different from
> areas without trees that happen to be part of a National Forest?
> 
> Wolfgang
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