[Talk-us] Paved Shoulder Tag for US Highways

Larry-CalRoadRunner calroadrunner at gmail.com
Wed Jun 3 23:11:19 UTC 2015


Hello Everyone,

I would like to thank everyone for the quick response. I agree that the tag
<cycleway=shoulder> is the correct tag to use, but for it to be effective,
it must be used consistently. Otherwise anyone trying to create a cycle map
for cyclists, will have a very confusing data. The type of Shoulders that
cyclists need to know is

Code (2 or 3)
[image: xFigure 4.49 shows an example of a bituminous shoulder, which would
be identified as Code "2" for this Data Item.]

and

Code 4
[image: Figure 4.50 shows an example of a stabilized shoulder, which would
be identified as Code "4" for this Data Item.]

Special Thank you to Thomas Roff for this link

http://www.fhwa.dot.gov/policyinformation/hpms/fieldmanual/chapter4c.cfm

I mentioned before that I added the tag <cycleway=lane> to the Silverado
Trail, since the shoulder is marked with bike lane signs and painted bike
lane signs and logos on the shoulder. I have ridden this road for years and
I can remember when this was nothing but a highway with paved shoulders and
nothing to indicate that it is a bike lane. I am going to include a link to
my personal YouTube Channel, so that everyone can see what I am talking
about. It starts on Trancas Rd. in Napa, Ca. No shoulder at first, then
paved shoulder and finally the Silverado Trail with the bike lane signs and
logo on the paved shoulder

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ek0M8wtGhSY
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ek0M8wtGhSY&index=21&list=PL5do4uwsHN3XRUuCuNPGfs6OX9_CF-j5F>

4 minutes and 35 seconds

For those of you that would like to see the entire bike ride, then click on
this link
to see all of the various road conditions encountered

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_lmxxZEb_jk

This is a fast motion video of most of the total ride including Hwy 29 with
paved shoulders. If you are not a bicycle rider this video will give you an
idea of what it is to ride a bicycle in the US. This is typical of many of
the conditions encountered, if you are a long distance cyclist.

According to current practice this is tagged as <cycleway=lane> for the
Silverado Trail.
For part of Trancas Rd. The appropriate tag should be <cycleway=shoulder>
just before arriving at the Silverado Trail. My question is does the
Silverado Trail qualify as a true dedicated cycleway or is it just a
highway with paved shoulders. Currently, I see on the current cycle maps
that roads with paved shoulders are currently tag as <cycleway=lane> if
they have the bike signs and logo. I also see roads that do not have any
bike signs and logo also tagged with <cycleway=lane> According to the wiki
tag most of the roads tagged as <cycleway=lane>, do not fall into the
strict definition of a dedicated cycle lane. This is why I am asking for a
published wiki tag describing roads with paved shoulders, so that everyone
in the world will used the appropriate tag when mapping roads.

Thank You,

Larry-California RoadRunner
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