[Talk-us] hgv=designated in US National Park

Jim McAndrew jim at loc8.us
Tue Jun 30 16:29:12 UTC 2015


Trail Ridge Road is a bit of an exception to normal NPS rules because it
does connect two population centers that are otherwise very far from each
other.
I don't have any more specific knowledge on the exceptions other than the
stories from Russell.
In any case, you do need to check in at the gate and explain why you can
legally use the road.

On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 9:51 PM, Russell Deffner <russdeffner at gmail.com>
wrote:

> No problem, had to do some searching and further remembering. The
> ‘agreement’ we were using was called the ‘tri-county waiver’ which allowed
> Boulder, Grand and Larimer county residents to pass through for work (it
> has changed a bit according to a search).  However, there is also:
> http://www.nps.gov/romo/planyourvisit/commercial_trucking_permits.htm so
> I think access=destination may be best choice through RMNP (according to
> the wiki, first thought was =permissive)?
>
> =Russ
>
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> *From:* Mike Thompson [mailto:miketho16 at gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Monday, June 29, 2015 9:28 PM
> *To:* Russell Deffner
> *Cc:* Open Street Map Talk-US
> *Subject:* Re: [Talk-us] hgv=designated in US National Park
>
>
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> Russ,
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> Thanks for the additional information. Perhaps hgv=destination?
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> I am pretty sure that if one showed up at one of the Estes Park entrances
> with a semi and told them that you had to make a delivery in Granby they
> wouldn't let you through. The next time I am up there I will ask.
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> Mike
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> On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 8:02 PM, Russell Deffner <
> russell.deffner at hotosm.org> wrote:
>
> Dang, sorry; just caught my typo, hgv=private may NOT be the proper tag.
>
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> *From:* Russell Deffner [mailto:Russell.Deffner at hotosm.org]
> *Sent:* Monday, June 29, 2015 8:02 PM
> *To:* 'Mike Thompson'
> *Cc:* 'Open Street Map Talk-US'
> *Subject:* RE: [Talk-us] hgv=designated in US National Park
>
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> Hi again Mike, I should have specified – the entirety of Trail Ridge Road
> J
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> I think we did actually come in (from the east, i.e. FC to Granby) via
> 36.  I would say hgv=private is the ‘correct’ tag; in this case the
> ‘highway’ is actually ‘State controlled w/ agreements of the Park Service’,
> maybe Jim or one of them have a better answer, but it seems more like “this
> is a State Highway” if you ‘know the rules’ and have a valid ID you can use
> it accordingly. (in our case we just had to have a Fort Collins address and
> say “we’re on our way to work in Granby” – this was in either our work
> trucks or my personal vehicle).
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> Anyway, hope this helps find proper tagging for 34/36/Trail Ridge Road;
> cheers!
>
> =Russ
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