[Talk-us] hgv=designated in US National Park

[Mike Thompson]

Jim, Russ,

Thanks for the information and the link to the park policies.

I think I will change to hgv=destination and put a note in containing the
note Russ sent.

Mike

On Tue, Jun 30, 2015 at 10:29 AM, Jim McAndrew <jim at loc8.us> wrote:

> Trail Ridge Road is a bit of an exception to normal NPS rules because it
> does connect two population centers that are otherwise very far from each
> other.
> I don't have any more specific knowledge on the exceptions other than the
> stories from Russell.
> In any case, you do need to check in at the gate and explain why you can
> legally use the road.
>
> On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 9:51 PM, Russell Deffner <russdeffner at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> No problem, had to do some searching and further remembering. The
>> ‘agreement’ we were using was called the ‘tri-county waiver’ which allowed
>> Boulder, Grand and Larimer county residents to pass through for work (it
>> has changed a bit according to a search).  However, there is also:
>> http://www.nps.gov/romo/planyourvisit/commercial_trucking_permits.htm so
>> I think access=destination may be best choice through RMNP (according to
>> the wiki, first thought was =permissive)?
>>
>> =Russ
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Mike Thompson [mailto:miketho16 at gmail.com]
>> *Sent:* Monday, June 29, 2015 9:28 PM
>> *To:* Russell Deffner
>> *Cc:* Open Street Map Talk-US
>> *Subject:* Re: [Talk-us] hgv=designated in US National Park
>>
>>
>>
>> Russ,
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks for the additional information. Perhaps hgv=destination?
>>
>>
>>
>> I am pretty sure that if one showed up at one of the Estes Park entrances
>> with a semi and told them that you had to make a delivery in Granby they
>> wouldn't let you through. The next time I am up there I will ask.
>>
>>
>>
>> Mike
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 8:02 PM, Russell Deffner <
>> russell.deffner at hotosm.org> wrote:
>>
>> Dang, sorry; just caught my typo, hgv=private may NOT be the proper tag.
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Russell Deffner [mailto:Russell.Deffner at hotosm.org]
>> *Sent:* Monday, June 29, 2015 8:02 PM
>> *To:* 'Mike Thompson'
>> *Cc:* 'Open Street Map Talk-US'
>> *Subject:* RE: [Talk-us] hgv=designated in US National Park
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi again Mike, I should have specified – the entirety of Trail Ridge Road
>> J
>>
>>
>>
>> I think we did actually come in (from the east, i.e. FC to Granby) via
>> 36.  I would say hgv=private is the ‘correct’ tag; in this case the
>> ‘highway’ is actually ‘State controlled w/ agreements of the Park Service’,
>> maybe Jim or one of them have a better answer, but it seems more like “this
>> is a State Highway” if you ‘know the rules’ and have a valid ID you can use
>> it accordingly. (in our case we just had to have a Fort Collins address and
>> say “we’re on our way to work in Granby” – this was in either our work
>> trucks or my personal vehicle).
>>
>>
>>
>> Anyway, hope this helps find proper tagging for 34/36/Trail Ridge Road;
>> cheers!
>>
>> =Russ
>>
>>
>>
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