[Talk-us] San Diego Address Import Update

stevea steveaOSM at softworkers.com
Tue Nov 10 17:07:21 UTC 2015

>  > On Nov 9, 2015, at 8:42 PM, Richard Welty <rwelty at averillpark.net> wrote:
>  >
>  > maybe but i would do some more research before making an assumption.
>>  i'm aware of many postal city addresses that are in different counties
>>  than the
>>  "real" cities and i believe there are at least 4 cases where postal delivery
>  > crosses state lines.

In the case of Guatay and Pine Valley, I can say that those are 
exactly the names of the communities that the people who live there 
call each of them.  (My family used to own a place in Guatay about 
forty years ago and we'd go there as a getaway -- it is a serene, 
pretty place).  While both of these are certainly in San Diego County 
(the SANGIS Addresses import data don't reflect this specifically 
with an addr:county tag, as all of them are in one county), some 
SANGIS Address import nodes have addr:city=San Diego (if true) and 
others do not (if not).  Still others, as you have found, have this 
tag incorrect, and it should be corrected.

If the city is incorporated (El Cajon, La Mesa, Chula Vista...) then 
you might want to add that in a city: tag to a node or a specific set 
of nodes for completeness sake.  If not, then for these specific 
cases you might consider adding the tags of addr:village=Pine Valley 
and addr:hamlet=Guatay.  While our addr: wiki does show a tag 
addr:hamlet, it doesn't show one for addr:village.  However, I 
believe the extrapolation from place= "works" (is appropriate) on 
addr: tags, for all values of place= (suburb, town, village, 

To Tod Fitch's original question:
>What is a "city" in US specific OSM terms?
>...So what "more research before making an assumption" should be 
>done in this area? I suspect a theoretical problem with a 
>hypothetical general case is be being brought up when what I see in 
>the data is a pretty straight forward issue of bad data that can be 

So, Tod, please correct the "bad data" as you see fit, as your 
research has enlightened you, and as this person (me) has confirmed 
Pine Valley and Guatay being a village and hamlet (respectively) and 
not part of the City of San Diego (by quite a ways), but certainly in 
San Diego County.  I think Richard Welty makes a good point to "do 
(sufficient) research" but it seems you now have, and I don't believe 
you are assuming too much here.

(grew up in San Diego)

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