[Talk-us] Should driveways be on OSM?

Peter Dobratz peter at dobratz.us
Sun Oct 4 04:59:35 UTC 2015


On Fri, Oct 2, 2015 at 7:23 AM, Tom Bloom <tombloom99 at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> -Living Streets. This is a distinct entity and not something decided by OSM. They are decided by local administration, and OSM should tag them only after that. Paul suggests that there could be townhouses at the end of rural lanes in rural Oregon. They are farmhouses and the tag is wrong. Tho I do prefer the wrong green tag to the wrong red tag :-).
>
> Almost everywhere that I see people using highway=living_street in the
United States, I think they should be really using highway=service and
service=driveway as you suggest.  I did live in Germany for a while and I
know exactly what is meant by the highway=living_street tag there,
especially because they have a special road sign for them. I have never
come across a living street in the United States.

Access:
Living streets are a type of residential street which are generally public.
Driveways generally have some sort of implied access restrictions.

Ownership:
Living streets are generally owned and maintained by the government.
Driveways are generally owned and maintained by the owner of the adjoining
buildings.

Speed:
Living streets are generally really slow (2-3 mph) because you expect
children to run out at any time.
Driveways are generally faster (10-15 mph), though the speed limit, if any,
is usually set by the property owner.  You expect pedestrians to at least
pause and look before entering the driveway.

Crosswalks:
Living streets don't have crosswalks because the whole area sort of acts
like a crosswalk because vehicles have to always watch for people and yield
to them.
Driveways, especially in larger apartment complexes, can have designated
crosswalks and sidewalks for pedestrians.

Peter
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