[Talk-us] Request revert on Changeset #33669446

[Paul Johnson]

On Wed, Sep 2, 2015 at 6:01 PM, Tod Fitch <tod at fitchdesign.com> wrote:

> I believe that as long as there is at least a solid barrier between
> opposing traffic and access is limited to slip/link/ramp ways then that
> section is classified as a freeway by CalTrans.


Actually, just the latter.  There's a fair number of mostly mountainous and
rural examples in southern and Sierra parts of California where you'll see
freeway entrances leading to a four-lane undivided.  Or the division is
basically a token move; I recall there's a segment of the 118 around Rocky
Peak that allows you to drive on the lefthand shoulder, left of the
single-orange line (as opposed to the flush median usually painted to
provide the carpool lane some distance from substantially slower general
access traffic found closer to central LA) if you're a carpool during peak
hours with the only thing separating you from oncoming traffic doing the
same thing is a flimsy chain-link fence I wouldn't trust to stop a bicycle
from crossing over.  Checking street view if they finally fixed it suggests
that as of June 2012 it appears to be freshly renovated to use a flush
median to seperate now 24-hour carpool access and replaced the chain link
with a K-rail.


> On the other hand, there is a nearly 40 mile sections of CA152 between
> Casa De Fruita and I-5 which at either end have miles of limited access but
> which I think are offically non-freeway (tagged as trunk in OSM). So it
> could be that the length of the limited access section is taken into
> consideration by CalTrans when deciding to put up a “begin freeway” sign.
>

 Well, controlled access.  I consider controlled access a little higher
than limited access, the difference being whether or not surface
intersections and property access is banned unless otherwise unfeasible.  I
would consider limited access or a mix of limited and controlled access as
a trunk.  About the only thing I really consider a motorway would be
multilane, controlled access,
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