[Talk-us] [Imports] Proposing import of sidewalk data Seattle, WA, USA

Frederik Ramm frederik at remote.org
Tue Aug 2 21:51:56 UTC 2016


Clifford,

On 08/02/2016 05:59 PM, Clifford Snow wrote:
> We tell people not to map for the renderer. In the same spirit shouldn't
> we tell people not to let the limitations of the editor stop them from
> mapping?

Usually, when you deal with individual mappers who come up with a
tagging scheme, you can simply let them try it because they are just one
person and the amount of stuff they can survey in any given time is
limited. Before they can break a lot, others will notice what's going
on, and a discussion can develop.

Importing sidewalks for a large city is something different. It allows
you to add thousands of objects in a short time frame. Hence the request
to "talk before you import" - something we don't expect from the hobby
mapper who adds a few sidewalks according to a tagging schema he has
made up.

> I'm not following you. They did announce their plans and are discussing
> the proposal with the community, including how to route. 

I am concerned that they might want to start importing data 5 days from
now which is certainly not enough time for a solid discussion. Maybe I
misread.

> Unlike existing routing systems, they are proposing to enable people
> with limited mobility to find a route to their location.  

As I have said, there have been a number of publicly funded projects
that had this laudable aim. Solving the issue by adding ways for every
sidewalk is one of many potential solutions; a solution that has
advantages and drawbacks which should be discussed widely before an
import is done to "kick-start" world-wide adaption of a tagging schema.

> Yet their plan is the easiest for a new mapper to follow. I've followed
> mapping of sidewalks. Where are these proposals you talk about? 

I linked some in my post to the tagging list. Some of the
failed/single-minded projects in the past didn't even bother documenting
their tags on the wiki, insofar this project is superior - and it's
totally ok for them to start a discussion. Just not an import one week
after mentioning that by-the-way-we-have-a-proposal-here ;)

Bye
Frederik

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