[Talk-us] [OSM-talk] Beware Pokemon users

[Andrew Wiseman]

Warin said: "Targeting Pokemon contributors falls into a trap... the
assumption that a particular activity/group are all inclined to vandalism.

These new contributors could be very usefull ... if 'we' don't tar them all
with abusive thoughts."

Most definitely, we should assume good faith -- but I've been browsing my
area and noticed some inaccurate edits that are Pokemon related, like users
drawing tons of nonexistent footpaths over what is presumably their house
so they can catch Pokemon there, complete with names like "Looking for
Pokemon", "testing to see if Pokemon spawn here" and "I hope I catch some
here" -- clearly not official names or accurate data. We should definitely
be polite and suggest the correct way to edit, but also be aware of people
making bad or test edits. Some people are mapping the paths and
parks correctly, but a significant number aren't. Who knows, maybe this
could even be a good way to encourage folks to map hiking trails, parks and
so on. Engage Pokemon fans to do their own mapathons!

I was using this to find changesets that included the word "pokemon"
http://resultmaps.neis-one.org/osm-changesets?comment=pokemon#2/10.7/-4.9
 --- not the complete set of all Pokemon-related edits, of course, but it's
a start.

On Fri, Dec 30, 2016 at 2:00 PM, Jack Burke <burkejf3 at gmail.com> wrote:

> They're using the same map they used in Ingress, a game they launched when
> still part of Google. That one is known to have come from Google. It makes
> sense that any map databases they had when the break happened would still
> be owned by the company; they just wouldn't have maps that included changes
> since then.
>
> A co-worker plays that game, and he and I compared Pokémon places in our
> area with the ones in that game, and they're identical.
>
> -jack
> --
> Typos courtesy of fancy auto spell technology
>
> On December 30, 2016 9:40:56 AM EST, Paul Johnson <baloo at ursamundi.org>
> wrote:
>
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 27, 2016 at 7:14 PM, Warin <61sundowner at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Targeting Pokemon contributors falls into a trap... the assumption that
>>> a particular activity/group are all inclined to vandalism.
>>
>>
>> Another trap, too:  Assuming that Niantic and/or Nintendo are using
>> OpenStreetMap for this game.  And if they are, then they're doing so
>> without attribution.  Without any attribution and with Niantic no longer
>> part of Alphabet (Google's parent company), it's not clear where they're
>> getting their map from.
>>
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