[Talk-us] Best practices for dealing with old TIGER tags?

[Steve Friedl]

*  Unless something changed, I think both Potlatch and JOSM will remove the ‘junk’ tags from TIGER if you delete the reviewed=no

 

I’ve deleted thousands of tiger:reviewed tags (after proper review) and have never seen JOSM take anything else along for the ride.  JOSM *does* remove the yellow glow around ways once you remove tiger:reviewed, but that’s all I’ve seen.

 

I have very much wanted to dump the tags that have no obvious use for OSM, but had no idea if somebody else, somewhere, might use them: probably not, but it didn’t feel like it was my call to make. I’d love for there to be a consensus on this.

 

So the only things I’ve removed are tiger:reviewed, plus spurious additional tags that duplicate existing ones (tiger:zip_left_1 when it’s the same as tiger:zip_left).

 

Steve

 

From: Russell Deffner [mailto:russdeffner at gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, June 03, 2016 8:45 AM
To: 'Adam Franco' <adamfranco at gmail.com>; talk-us at openstreetmap.org
Subject: Re: [Talk-us] Best practices for dealing with old TIGER tags?

 

Oops, sorry Adam, replied directly to you versus the list; here’s the message: 

 

My thoughts:

 

Unless something changed, I think both Potlatch and JOSM will remove the ‘junk’ tags from TIGER if you delete the reviewed=no. Maybe this is not the case with iD?

 

As far as classification; please note that it is not about whether the road is rural or not; it’s the function – there have been people who started changing all ‘dirt roads’ to track around me in rural Colorado – this is NOT correct. Most of the ‘dirt roads’ around here are 100% verifiably “residential”. So please don’t encourage mass changing of classification based on anything but function of the roadway.

 

=Russ 

 

From: Adam Franco [mailto:adamfranco at gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, June 03, 2016 9:28 AM
To: talk-us at openstreetmap.org <mailto:talk-us at openstreetmap.org>  Openstreetmap
Subject: Re: [Talk-us] Best practices for dealing with old TIGER tags?

 

Just some more feedback on the idea of a TIGER rural-residential challenge based on cleanup I've done throughout much of Vermont:

*	Most of the roads in rural areas should have their highway= changed to something other than residential. (well known issue).
*	Surface tags would be GREAT! I've added surface tags to most roads in Vermont, but have not quite gotten to all of them yet.
*	At least here in Vermont, "private road" means that the ownership and maintenance of the road is the responsibility of the resident[s], not that "access=private". We have many private roads due to low densities of residences and Towns generally won't take over ownership/maintenance unless there are at least 3 residences and the proposal passes a public vote. The TIGER import mistakenly tagged many private-roads as "access=private". It would be great to remove this tag if it hasn't been added by a person.

If there is any way to help out with this effort I'd love to lend a hand. 

 

On Fri, Jun 3, 2016 at 10:18 AM, James Umbanhowar <jumbanho at gmail.com <mailto:jumbanho at gmail.com> > wrote:

Funny, I just looked at the MapRoulette beta and noticed that you were
already doing this.




On Fri, 2016-06-03 at 10:00 -0400, James Umbanhowar wrote:
> Minor suggestion for this MapRoulette challenge:  Could you structure
> it by state (or other geographic region, county?) and do each region
> sequentially.  I, personally, think it would be neat to see areas get
> "done" as far as Tiger clean up.  
>
> Either way, thanks for these.
>
> James
>
> On Fri, 2016-06-03 at 10:21 +0200, Martijn van Exel wrote:
> >
> > Well said. I have space in my basement also. 
> >
> > I am eager to launch a MapRoulette challenge for untouched rural
> > ‘residential’ roads - a challenge which will probably take some
> > time
> > to complete. If someone can furnish a good Overpass query for this,
> > please go ahead and do it.
> >
> > Martijn
> >
> > >
> > > On Jun 3, 2016, at 8:55 AM, Richard Fairhurst <richard at systemed.n <mailto:richard at systemed.n%0b> 
> > > et
> > > >
> > > > wrote:
> > > There is a special corner of hell/Steve's basement for people who
> > > remove
> > > tiger:reviewed=no on rural unpaved roads without changing the
> > > highway tag or
> > > adding a surface tag.
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