[Talk-us] Bar vs Pub vs Restaurant in the US?

Greg Troxel gdt at lexort.com
Thu Sep 29 18:00:04 UTC 2016

Harald Kliems <kliems at gmail.com> writes:

> On Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 12:17 PM Greg Troxel <gdt at lexort.com> wrote:
>> That's not what the OSM tag means; it's more european.  In OSM, "cafe"
>> means (usually) that there is real food, but (always) that you order at
>> a counter and then either take it yourself or have the staff bring it to
>> you.  However, a coffee shop is very probably a cafe under this
>> definition.  But so is a place that has real food cooked by a chef,
>> except that you don't get waited on.

> Where do you get the order-at-the-counter vs table service part from? I
> don't see that in the wiki, and the picture on the amenity=cafe page shows
> a waiter in an Austrian cafe, who most likely will take your order at the
> table. https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Dcafe Furthermore,
> there is a separate tag for self service
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:self_service

I really do not remember clearly where I read this; it would have been
about 5 years ago.
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