[Talk-us] Trunk

Paul Johnson baloo at ursamundi.org
Sun Oct 15 03:02:18 UTC 2017


On Sat, Oct 14, 2017 at 9:43 PM, Evin Fairchild <evindfair at gmail.com> wrote:

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> On Oct 14, 2017 5:41 PM, "Paul Johnson" <baloo at ursamundi.org> wrote:
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> On Sat, Oct 14, 2017 at 7:28 PM, Evin Fairchild <evindfair at gmail.com>
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>> On Oct 14, 2017 4:25 PM, "Paul Johnson" <baloo at ursamundi.org> wrote:
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>> On Sat, Oct 14, 2017 at 6:08 PM, Evin Fairchild <evindfair at gmail.com>
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>>> On Oct 14, 2017 2:04 PM, "Wolfgang Zenker" <wolfgang at lyxys.ka.sub.org>
>>> wrote:
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>>> Hi,
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>>> it looks to me that this discussion is going in circles, not forward
>>> at the moment. IMHO it does not make a lot of sense to argue what might
>>> be the true meaning of "trunk". Instead, we should concentrate on what
>>> it should mean, document this meaning if we can agree on one and don't
>>> worry to much about what other maps or different parts of the world
>>> think a "trunk" is.
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>>> Yeah, the whole reason why this discussion hasn't resulted in a
>>> consensus for 7+ years is because people have dug in their heels so much
>>> and said "trunk roads can only be divided highways, no its, ands, or buts."
>>> I support what is written on the wiki that says that it is the second most
>>> important road after motorway. I haven't seen a single compelling reason to
>>> believe that trunk should only apply to divided highways. You can still
>>> tell whether a trunk is divided at low zooms based on how thick the line is.
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>> I'm OK with single carriageway trunks, if they're controlled access,
>> like, say, the Chickasaw Turnpike, and similarly constructed roads.  The
>> single carriageway parts of US 395 or US 97 in eastern Oregon, US 400 in
>> Kansas or US 75 in Oklahoma, though?  They're all solid primaries.
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>> You actually think that US 97, the main artery thru Central Oregon that
>> passes thru the Bend area which has a 75K population and a metro population
>> of 100K shouldn't be connected to the outside world with a trunk road?
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> Yes.  Because for the majority of that length that isn't between US 20 and
> County Road 40 is, for all practical purposes, the same generic two lane,
> shoulderless ribbon of pavement that pretty much any two lane Texas FM or
> RM road, or pretty much any other similar road in the American west.
> Primary is more than ample for such a road.
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> That's not accurate to compare a US highway to some podunk FM/RM road out
> in the middle of nowhere in Texas. US 97 has way more traffic and very
> deserving of its trunk road designation. Most US highways are, except in
> places where they parallel an interstate or other freeway. BTW, this is
> what is written on the wiki.
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 Which was updated by NE2 to skew towards his view of the situation.  Any
edits by him have negative value at this point.  Disconnect his reality
from actual reality.
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