[Talk-us] Open survey on participation biases in OSM
Dave Swarthout
daveswarthout at gmail.com
Tue Sep 5 08:52:17 UTC 2017
Zoe,
Reading these responses helps me understand why you are doing what you're
doing. It's almost laughable that some male mappers responded with, well,
sexist remarks concerning your work. People are not usually aware of the
biases they introduce and that's why researchers must use statistical
analyses and double blind tests to evaluate new drugs, consumer trends and
preferences, etc. I'm reasonably sure OSM is no different. I know that a
portion of my mapping effort tends to concentrate on areas and things that
are of interest to me and while I don't think my being a man has much to do
with it, I would be curious to see if your research shows something
different. Towards that end, I'd be happy to cooperate with your effort to
clarify the situation.
Best wishes,
Dave (aka AlaskaDave)
On Tue, Sep 5, 2017 at 1:25 PM, Marc Gemis <marc.gemis at gmail.com> wrote:
> One of the discussion points on her diary entry was female hygiene
> products found in women's toilets. How is a man going to map that,
> without access to women's toilets ?
>
> The real question for me is are men more likely going to map shop=car
> than shop=clothes;clothes=underwear/fashion/ ... (sorry for the
> stereotyping)
> will men map leisure=playground or amenity=pub ?
> will a roman catholic map a mosque ?
> will a non-dog owner map leisure=dog_park ?
>
> in short: will we map everything we see or do we map only our
> interests ? Furthermore, do we really see everything or do we only see
> (and map) things we are conditioned to ?
>
> This is not about buildings, addresses, roads and paths. They are
> pretty gender neutral I think. It's about POIs.
>
>
> regards
>
> m.
>
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 5, 2017 at 6:24 AM, Greg Morgan <dr.kludge.gm at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > On Mon, Sep 4, 2017 at 3:45 AM, Zoe Gardner <zoegardner3 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Dear OSM talk subscriber
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> I am a Research Fellow in the Nottingham Geospatial Institute at the
> >> University of Nottingham in the UK, interested in participation biases
> in
> >> geospatial crowdsourced projects such as OSM and other Volunteered
> >> Geographical Information (VGI) projects. My current research project is
> >> concerned with the way in which participation biases in OSM may
> potentially
> >> affect the usability of the data that is collected and subsequently
> what is
> >> available to location based service providers which use OSM as their
> primary
> >> geospatial database.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> The project is motivated by recent research that has found a strong male
> >> bias in OSM participation. This has led to assertions that various
> >> geospatial knowledge could be under represented or poorly recorded on
> the
> >> map.
> >
> >
> > Zoe,
> >
> > I believe that you need to go back to the drawing board. OSM is not
> about
> > gender, race, religion, or sexual orientation. OSM is about people with
> > leisure time that are willing to spend to add nodes to a map. If I like
> to
> > add buidlings to the map, there is nothing about those nodes and one way
> > that compose the building that would discriminate or leave out
> information
> > based on gender, race, religion, or sexual orientation.
> >
> > This sounds like one of those surveys designed to damage OSM.
> > "data that is collected and subsequently what is available to location
> based
> > service providers"
> > That statement sound like you are performing research for a vendor that
> > cannot compete with OSM.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Greg
> >
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Dave Swarthout
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