[Talk-us] I-69 east west vs north south

Bill Ricker bill.n1vux at gmail.com
Fri Sep 22 05:32:15 UTC 2017


He seems to be correct, using the (not usable for mapping but usable
to inform discussion) G-Streetview, I do indeed see signage as
described, which defies commonly understood version of Fed standards.
Not just BUSINESS route, not just when cotracking i-94, but actual
green, solo "WEST 69 MILE 198" with red white and blue shield.

Do we know if whether there is a Fed exemption, the Feds actually
acknowledge that I-69 actually E-W beyond a certain point, and so can
be E-W here?  Or if  the State of Michigan is defying Federal
standards in the interest of being understandable? After the Feds
threatened to pull our block grant $$ if we didn't renumber our exits
their way, I'm amazed they're letting this slide when they could just
rename the E-W section I-369 E-W  and it'd be a compliant extension of
a N-S route. Perhaps the bureaucracy can be reasonable. [I spent a few
years with DOT, not in Highway. Nice folks really.]

(Probably not the only exception. There are 1xx/2xx/3xx/4xx that don't
fit the spur/loop rule too.)


(Frankly, I'm surprised any of 69's escutcheon route markers remain
unstolen, like the 420 mile markers that keep wandering off.)

So back to original question(s) --
- who should fix the E-W section of I-69 to be E-W
- how - split relation? relation of relation?
- from where ?  At what point does signage change to E-W ?
   [and for mapping purposes no I'm NOT going to suggest we get that
from a copyright source like StreeView, that needs free & open ground
truth. ]



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