[Talk-us] Clarke County, Mississippi, county road signs and OSM name tags

Paul Johnson baloo at ursamundi.org
Wed Aug 15 00:25:54 UTC 2018


On Tue, Aug 14, 2018 at 5:46 PM, Mike N <niceman at att.net> wrote:

> On 8/14/2018 6:33 PM, Paul Johnson wrote:
>
>> Yeah, even then I'd be more inclined to go with ref=CR 1400W, noname=yes
>> on the way itself.
>>
>
> How should we handle addressing for noname roads?  What should addr:street
> contain for addresses along that road?   Until now, I've been assigning
> names as I enter an address and need a match for addr:street.
>

What does E911 call it?  That's almost certainly going to be what the
postal service is going to call it.

For example, this Walmart <https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/341595018> has
an address on South State Highway 51, though OK 51 through there is Doctor
William R. Bright Bypass.  Also handles concurrent highways with no name, a
situation common enough it'd be easier to name states where this doesn't
happen.  For example, this cinema
<https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/347996851#map=18/36.69897/-101.48422> is
on a road with no name and four routes concurrent, but a "North Highway 64"
address.  And the theoretical edge case where where State Street has no ref
at all, and the powers that be decided that it's now Rear Admiral and Mrs.
Edward Richard Warhero, Medal of Honor Street officially, but E911/the
postal service just decided to keep State Street as the street name for the
addresses.  In any case, the signs are going to say one thing, and the
addresses say something else entirely, that may or may not actually
correspond with something that can be inferred without historic context
(e.g. old_name=*).  Closest (but bad, since 911 and the postal service
don't recognize the old names) examples I can think of would be in
Portland, Oregon during the transition when Union Avenue was renamed Martin
Luther King, Junior Boulevard, and when 39th Avenue was renamed César
Estrada Chávez Boulevard, except in those case, the old signs stayed up for
years to decades alongside the new signs, and locals never adopted the new
name even after the signs were long gone.

Messy would be "how do you deal with situations where the exact same thing
has a Rural Free Delivery-era legacy Postal Service address, and an E911
street address" now... so far the RFD address would be addr:housename,
since addr:housenumber definitely conflicts...
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