[Talk-us] Trunk versus motorway

Paul Johnson baloo at ursamundi.org
Sun Dec 2 22:03:31 UTC 2018


The commonly accepted definition of freeways in the US excludes surface
junctions, whereas expressways (trunks) does include intersections.  I
honestly am surprised a group of roadgeeks isn't more attuned to this
distinction.

On Sun, Dec 2, 2018 at 3:15 PM Adam Franco <adamfranco at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Sun, Dec 2, 2018 at 1:36 AM Paul Johnson <baloo at ursamundi.org> wrote:
>
>>
>> On Sun, Dec 2, 2018 at 12:30 AM Bryan Housel <bhousel at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I do understand your point, but a dozen or so people on talk-us and the
>>> six or so people on that changeset 64919426
>>>
>>
>> Well, 1 person, an AA roads troll and like 5 sockpuppets.  There's also a
>> number of people in this thread that do agree with me.
>>
>>
>>> discussion all disagree with you.  Is there nothing that would make you
>>> reconsider?
>>>
>>
>> Get the commonly used definition of a freeway changed to include
>> intersections.  Good luck!
>>
>
> Since you are asking for more declaration of support/opposition, I'm a
> relatively disinterested-in-motorways mapper that has been following along
> with this thread. Paul, I think your read of a motorway definition is
> overly rigid and I agree with Richie, Bryan, and the others that a motorway
> classification may continue beyond the last interchange.
>
> If one is traveling past the last interchange one may be traveling in a
> "motorway zone" where high speeds, grade separation of crossing roads, dual
> carriageway, etc all continue to exist. As Richie pointed out, there will
> be some place where "caution freeway ends", "intersection ahead" or slowing
> speed limit signage indicates a transition out of the motorway zone to
> something else. That seems like a vastly more appropriate place to change
> the tagging from motorway to trunk/primary. Choosing the point of the last
> interchange doesn't make sense as there may be many miles on both sides of
> the last interchange where the roadway is functionally the same -- where
> standing and looking at the road it shows all of the characteristics of a
> motorway. It is confusing to think that an at-grade intersection far over
> the horizon would force a long final segment of road to change
> classification.
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