[Talk-us] Trunk versus motorway

[Evin Fairchild]

Once again, I see you're misrepresenting the discussion and trying to make
us look like a bunch of idiots for not accepting your way of doing things.
There's no way you're so dense as to assume that because we pretty much all
want the motorway designation to extend all the way to the first at grade
intersection, we think roads with at grade intersections can be classified
as motorways.

-Evin (compdude)

On Sun, Dec 2, 2018, 2:05 PM Paul Johnson <baloo at ursamundi.org wrote:

> The commonly accepted definition of freeways in the US excludes surface
> junctions, whereas expressways (trunks) does include intersections.  I
> honestly am surprised a group of roadgeeks isn't more attuned to this
> distinction.
>
> On Sun, Dec 2, 2018 at 3:15 PM Adam Franco <adamfranco at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Sun, Dec 2, 2018 at 1:36 AM Paul Johnson <baloo at ursamundi.org> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Dec 2, 2018 at 12:30 AM Bryan Housel <bhousel at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I do understand your point, but a dozen or so people on talk-us and the
>>>> six or so people on that changeset 64919426
>>>>
>>>
>>> Well, 1 person, an AA roads troll and like 5 sockpuppets.  There's also
>>> a number of people in this thread that do agree with me.
>>>
>>>
>>>> discussion all disagree with you.  Is there nothing that would make you
>>>> reconsider?
>>>>
>>>
>>> Get the commonly used definition of a freeway changed to include
>>> intersections.  Good luck!
>>>
>>
>> Since you are asking for more declaration of support/opposition, I'm a
>> relatively disinterested-in-motorways mapper that has been following along
>> with this thread. Paul, I think your read of a motorway definition is
>> overly rigid and I agree with Richie, Bryan, and the others that a motorway
>> classification may continue beyond the last interchange.
>>
>> If one is traveling past the last interchange one may be traveling in a
>> "motorway zone" where high speeds, grade separation of crossing roads, dual
>> carriageway, etc all continue to exist. As Richie pointed out, there will
>> be some place where "caution freeway ends", "intersection ahead" or slowing
>> speed limit signage indicates a transition out of the motorway zone to
>> something else. That seems like a vastly more appropriate place to change
>> the tagging from motorway to trunk/primary. Choosing the point of the last
>> interchange doesn't make sense as there may be many miles on both sides of
>> the last interchange where the roadway is functionally the same -- where
>> standing and looking at the road it shows all of the characteristics of a
>> motorway. It is confusing to think that an at-grade intersection far over
>> the horizon would force a long final segment of road to change
>> classification.
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