[Talk-us] Senseless Germans, again.

[Jordan Brod]

Is it in the unwritten rules that Talk-de is always reasonable and peace
filled and Talk-us is hostile and rage filled?  It seems there is a bit of
hypocrisy in the OSM adage to rely on local mappers when someone thousands
of miles away is waiting to delete the local's contribution.  I wouldn't go
to the map in Germany and do a mass revert because the data didn't live up
to my standards, that's what notes are for.  That's what the mailing lists
are for.  That's what the DWG is for.  We don't need to be data vigilantes,
we should use the processes in hand to deal with problems, and if the
process is unwritten then somebody needs to write it down or throw it out
if it isn't important enough to write down.

On Wed, Jul 25, 2018, 11:58 AM Christoph Hormann <osm at imagico.de> wrote:

>
> I am somewhat amazed by the fact that hardly anyone from the US
> community (where a lot of mappers routinely map abroad and should be
> able to empathize with Frederik being concerned about an area where he
> has no first hand knowledge of) seems to find it necessary to speak up
> against this.  I cannot imagine someone coming to talk-de, getting
> a "Senseless Americans" in reply and this not being immediately
> rejected by many others - no matter how inappropriate or unfunded the
> original message might have been.
>
> This is talk-us of course so you are free to be as hostile and
> dismissive towards Germans here as you like.  Still i am watching the
> discussion with some bewilderment because in large parts (and in
> particular in statements from representatives of OSM US) it contrasts
> quite sharply with what i am used to in terms of American culture and
> communication styles.
>
> What saddens me is that those with constructive and reflective
> commentary (Rihards and Kevin) get caught in the rage against
> the "Senseless Germans".
>
> Side note:  I also have my doubts if Bryan's German colleagues at work
> appreciate this kind of remark.
>
> --
> Christoph Hormann
> http://www.imagico.de/
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