[Talk-us] California is too big ;)

Vivek Bansal 3vivekb at gmail.com
Wed Nov 7 20:59:20 UTC 2018

Thanks Drew!

I don't have any legs to stand on anymore so i'm also going to bow out of
the conversation :)

Anything you decide to do is fine with me Frederik.


Vivek Bansal

On Wed, Nov 7, 2018 at 10:07 AM Drew Dara-Abrams <dda at dara-abrams.com>

> Hi Vivek, Interline's OSM Extracts service generates extracts for all of
> those California metro regions that you list -- all extracts are updated
> daily. See https://www.interline.io/osm/extracts/ and
> https://github.com/interline-io/osm-extracts/blob/master/cities.json
> Hi Frederik, we see the Interline OSM Extracts service as complementary to
> Geofabrik, rather than trying to compete. Our own interest is in city/metro
> extracts, as our clients use these to power routing engines and other
> transportation analysis applications at the regional scale. It's great to
> have the comprehensive country and state coverage provided by Geofabrik.
> Feel free to drop me a line anytime at drew at interline.io.
> I'm a native Californian and know how contentious the intra-state divides
> can be... so I'll now leave this thread :)
> Drew
> On Tue, Nov 6, 2018 at 10:12 PM Vivek Bansal <3vivekb at gmail.com> wrote:
>> I told you Californians loved attention!
>> I picked 6 Californias because I thought it was the nicest way to divide
>> up the state into equally sized shapes with some reference to political
>> boundaries.  I also "detest" the politics of breaking up California but I
>> like the geospatial organization.
>> I don't have an opinion where a north south line would go.
>> That being said, (I think i'm repeating myself in a slightly different
>> way i'm sorry for that) alternatively would you consider adding a few of
>> the most populous regions and cities to the sub of California like you do
>> for Germany?  Just as you have an extract for Brandenberg (mit Berlin) as
>> well as Berlin, could you do the San Francisco Bay area as well as San
>> Francisco?  To make it easy, perhaps just use similar boundaries that
>> existed for Metro Extracts -
>> https://github.com/mapzen/metro-extracts/blob/master/cities.json namely:
>> - san-francisco-bay_california
>> - san-francisco_california
>> - san-jose_california
>> - los-angeles_california
>> - san-diego_california
>> There must have been a demand for those regions to be added to that list
>> and I think the vast majority of analyses would take place at these levels.
>> Thanks so much!
>> -Vivek
>> On Tue, Nov 6, 2018 at 8:11 PM Tod Fitch <tod at fitchdesign.com> wrote:
>>> > On Nov 6, 2018, at 1:58 PM, OSM Volunteer stevea <
>>> steveaOSM at softworkers.com> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Taken "straight across the state" (west to east), following the
>>> political boundaries of "the northern edges of three counties"
>>> (admin_level=6) to break up a state (admin_level=4), it's both easy
>>> (technically, simply "10 counties out of 58" or "northern edges of three
>>> counties"), agreeable by many, a political reality right now, mostly
>>> straight along a similar latitude line and already somewhat harmonious
>>> among the relatively small sample of people here on this list who have
>>> something to say about it.  (Not that we're definitive, nor am I,
>>> personally).  But, look, we did come to a rough consensus on a relatively
>>> simple solution rather quickly and easily.
>>> >
>>> > I say "we've thrown it against the wall, and it seems to stick."
>>> (Though of course, more discussion is welcome).
>>> >
>>> > SteveA
>>> > California
>>> +1 to this. Seems like a reasonable place to make a division to me.
>>> Tod
>>> also in California
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