[Talk-us] New United States Bicycle Routes!

[Kerry Irons]

We had the same experience in creating a RideWithGPS map and route log for USBR 21 in KY.  There are even places where a given road has two different spellings; you can tell it's the same road but the name spelling apparently is not agreed by the locals.  You learn to live with it.  While you would think that the KYTC names would be definitive, I have little confidence that that is true.


Kerry

-----Original Message-----
From: OSM Volunteer stevea <steveaOSM at softworkers.com> 
Sent: Friday, October 26, 2018 6:31 PM
To: talk-us <talk-us at openstreetmap.org>
Cc: Greg Morgan <dr.kludge.gm at gmail.com>; Kerry Irons <irons54vortex at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Talk-us] New United States Bicycle Routes!

I have completed a first draft of USBR 21 in Kentucky.  This was actually quite difficult as the TIGER name tags frequently do not match what highway names on the application from Kentucky's DOT says.  I did not change these, I'll leave that for "locals," but there is a great deal of work to do to change highway names in OSM in Kentucky, as it appears that counties, cities and KDOT change names (and segment breaks that make them up) quite a lot in the last 11 years since TIGER data were entered.

As our wiki says and as is good practice in OSM, Greg's 23 and my 21 data entry deserve a "double-check review" by another OSM volunteer, and while these are "green" in our wiki, they are a "light green" until this is completed.  Greg, if you email me off list and agree to double-check 21, I'll do the same to 23.  Others are welcome, of course; email one or both of us if you are interested in helping.

SteveA
California

> On Oct 26, 2018, at 10:51 AM, OSM Volunteer stevea <steveaOSM at softworkers.com> wrote:
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> Wow, Greg, you are quick.  Thank you!
> 
> Additionally, (a major reason I'm including Kerry in this missive), I removed from OSM segments of Kentucky's USBR 23 which overlapped with ACA's Transamerica Trail (TA) "Mammoth Cave Loop."  (Now largely superseded by 76 and 23).  These were between Highland Springs ("mid-state") and further north to Tanner, where 23 now connects to 76 at a T-intersection.  There are many reasons why OSM has been deprecating ACA routes in OSM:  these are proprietary and likely don't belong in OSM first place, and we document in our wiki that "over time, these tend to be replaced by USBRs" (among other reasons, like that they can get old and drift from updates that ACA can make or already has made).  Indeed, once again (as in the case of the northern segment of 76 in Kentucky replacing Mammoth Caves Loop earlier when 76 was approved in Kentucky), this segment of 23 100% overlaps with this ACA route, so yet another significant ACA route segment now deleted from OSM (as it is USBR now).
> 
> Thanks again for your work to enter this, and keep up the great entry I'm guessing you are doing with USBR 21.
> 
> Steve
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>> On Oct 26, 2018, at 6:18 AM, Greg Morgan <dr.kludge.gm at gmail.com> wrote:
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>> Kentucky USBR 23  is done.  https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/8843677#map=10/37.4960/-85.4712
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