[Talk-us] Opinions on Devil's Slide Bunker (San Mateo, CA)

[brad]

Agree, it seems pretty clear.   Even if the signs are universally 
ignored,  OSM shouldn't mislead everyone about the legality.

On 8/30/20 12:01 PM, Frederik Ramm wrote:
> Hi,
>
> "Devil's Slide Bunker" is a WW2 observation point near Pacifica in San
> Mateo County in California.
>
> OSM has the bunker listed as a "tourism=viewpoint", along with access
> tracks from the nearby CA-1 highway:
>
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=19/37.56868/-122.51506
>
> The area is technically on private ground, and a sign at the location says:
>
> "Warning. Hiking or climbing prohibited in this area. This property is
> designated as a dangerous area. It shall be unlawful to trespass
> thereon. San Mateo County Ordinance No. 1462"
> (http://www.remote.org/frederik/tmp/dssign.jpg)
>
> At the same time, searching the web shows tons of tourist guides that
> recommend a visit to this prohibited place, replete with photos showing
> lots of people around, and "Devil’s Slide Bunker sits on private
> property and is technically not open to the public, but a nearby parking
> area for the Devil’s Slide Trail, easy access along a short dirt trail,
> and no fencing mean that people stop to check it out and walk around
> every day."
>
> The DWG has received a complaint from a concerned citizen (via
> AllTrails) complaining about this illegal tourist attraction on OSM.
>
> While it is undeniably a de-facto tourist attraction, and undeniably
> offers great views, I think it should probably be changed to
> historic=ruins, access=no, and the tracks leading up to it should also
> be changed to access=no.
>
> Opinions?
>
> Best
> Frederik
>