[Talk-us] Jefferson Notch Road and latest "GPS made me do it" in the news
Kevin Broderick
ktb at kevinbroderick.com
Fri Jan 3 19:19:22 UTC 2020
However, that assumes that you can trust the news to be accurate, and the
distinction between "closed in winter" and "not maintained for winter
travel" is not one I expect the news media to get right. The article I saw
quoted the driver has having seen a "Not maintained for winter travel" sign
and continuing because he didn't think that implied a closure (which is
true, even if it may be a poor choice in a minivan).
Given that it is a snowmachine trail, "closed" seems more likely (and it
would be exceedingly impolite to put wheel ruts into a groomed trail, even
if legal), but it's been long enough since I traveled it that I can't
recall the signage. My fuzzy recollection is a gate on the Base Station
end. I can't find a definitive answer on the NH DOT site, and the WMNF MVUM
shows it to be a non-forest road through the forest.
On Fri, Jan 3, 2020 at 2:11 PM Mark Wagner <mark+osm at carnildo.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 2 Jan 2020 14:47:35 -0500
> Bill Ricker <bill.n1vux at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Kevin asks,
> > > is Jefferson Notch Road actually closed to wheeled vehicles in
> > > winter or
> > just not maintained?
> >
> > Per copyright news reports, it is signed as closed to wheeled
> > vehicles, open to snow-machines only, in winter.
> > (As should be obvious, to correctly tag this according to our
> > license, we do need some on-the ground or license0compatible
> > verification of the facts form the news, as well as a decision on
> > what tags to use.)
>
> In the United States, facts can't be copyrighted, only specific ways of
> expressing them. If a news article says "the road is closed in the
> winter from Wherezit Junction to Anytown", you can freely extract the
> fact of the closure, look for the OSM ways corresponding to the
> description, and apply a "closed in the winter" tag.
>
> (If the news article instead has a map of the closure, the copyright
> situation becomes more questionable, because now you're copying not
> just the facts of the closure, but possibly the way they're expressed
> as well.)
>
> --
> Mark
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