[Talk-us] Finding Changesets to Correct or Revert (Clifford Snow)

Doug Peterson dougpeterson at dpeters2.dyndns.org
Thu Jul 9 16:35:39 UTC 2020


I did participate in some of the discussion on the topic on the list. I am fine with the change in tagging tp something associated with state or county. I disagreed with some of the rationale as there are state and county parks that fit the definition of leisure=park in their location and how they are managed. I have several in my area. At that point it becomes a distinction on operator. In the end, all that does not matter that much to me. What matters to me is a conformity in the interim that removes important features from view. That seems counterproductive. I had read the public lands page. Tagging a state park as a national park seems to me like tagging for the renderer as well. I have sent a message to the owner of the changeset. I have not heard back. 

Thanks,

Doug Peterson

stevea <steveaOSM at softworkers.com> wrote ..
> It has distinctly emerged over the last year or two that leisure=park on such "larger"
> parks (county parks and especially state parks) is incorrect tagging.  Some have
> substituted leisure=nature_reserve, but these semantics may or may not logically
> map very well in the eye of the contributor.  However, this renders, so go figure.
> 
> Our "slowly emerging" wiki https://wiki.osm.org/wiki/United_States/Public_lands
> suggests the following:
> 
> It is important to note that boundary=national_park is also tagged on state parks,
> states being as sovereign as the federal government for purposes of declaring a
> park a park. So, for a "State Park,"
> 
> Tag boundaries:
> 
> 	• boundary=national_park or boundary=protected_area with protect_class=2
> 	• protection_title=State Park
> 	• name=Name of the State Park
> 	• ownership=state
> 	• operator=Name of the state Department of Parks & Recreation (as appropriate)
> 	• protected=perpetuity
> 
> It may be that this tagging does not render to your liking, or as Doug may have
> noticed "the park disappears."  I suggest bringing that up with the author(s) of
> your chosen renderer.
> 
> This is a difficult and contentious (less so, but still) topic in OSM in the USA,
> so tag your best, map your best.  OSM can keep kicking this can down the road,
> but eventually will need to harmonize parks / public lands tagging with better
> rendering.
> 
> SteveA


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