[Talk-us] Interested in importing address points in New York State
Adam Franco
adamfranco at gmail.com
Thu Jul 16 14:25:47 UTC 2020
Skyler, I was able to reach out to Vermont's State GIS office and received
an explicit usage grant that is now recorded in the OSM wiki
<https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Vermont#Resources>. While former
similar efforts in NY may have failed in years past, a new request might
succeed in getting a more blanket approval that could cover this and other
OSM projects. In case it help you or others as a starting point, here is
the message I used for Vermont:
---------- Forwarded message ---------
> From: Adam Franco <adamfranco at gmail.com>
> Date: Wed, Sep 20, 2017 at 4:59 PM
> Subject: Vermont/VCGI data usage in OpenStreetMap
> To: <leslie.pelch at vermont.gov>
>
> Dear Leslie,
>
> I contacted you about this topic several years ago (2013!) but then
> shifted my focus to other projects and never followed up again.
>
> I am a contributor <https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Adam%20Franco> to
> the OpenStreetMap <https://www.openstreetmap.org/> project [1], a
> collaborative open project to create a global geodata set freely usable by
> anyone [2].
>
> We respect the IP rights of others and I write to ask if we can use data
> published by VGCI, in particular [but not necessarily limited to] the
> following data-sets:
>
> - VTrans::vt-road-centerline
> <http://geodata.vermont.gov/datasets/VTrans::vt-road-centerline>
> - vt-boundaries-all-lines
> <http://geodata.vermont.gov/datasets/vt-boundaries-all-lines>
> - VT Hydrography Dataset
> <http://geodata.vermont.gov/datasets/acda0d7626644d9ca4d2c00dbe0141e0_10>
> - VT E911 Site Locations
> <http://geodata.vermont.gov/datasets/vt-e911-site-locations-building-address-points>
>
> I've read through the VCGI Warranty/Copyright document
> <http://vcgi.vermont.gov/sites/vcgi/files/warehouse/VCGI_Warranty_Copyright_Notice_2013.pdf>
> and while it seems to my lay reading that importing data from these
> data-sets into the OpenStreetMap would constitute a "value-add" and
> therefore allow such use, it would be helpful to the community to have a
> clear statement allowing our use of the data.
>
> At the most simple, I would seek a statement like this:
>
> "The State of Vermont and its Vermont Center for Geographic Information
> has no objections to geodata derived in part from the
> VTrans::vt-road-centerline, vt-boundaries-all-lines, VT Hydrography
> Dataset, and VT E911 Site Locations data sets being incorporated into the
> OpenStreetMap project geodata database and released under a free and open
> license" [1]
>
> A broader, less itemized grant might be even better, but I'm not sure if
> your agency might have concerns about over-broad usage grants. Maybe
> something like this:
>
> "The State of Vermont and its Vermont Center for Geographic Information
> has no objections to geodata derived in part from data-sets published by
> the VCGI being incorporated into the OpenStreetMap project geodata database
> and released under a free and open license"
>
> I also ask that whatever statement you are prepared to make can be made
> public for information purposes, posting it to the project's data-source
> documentation <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Potential_Datasources>
> for others to reference.
>
> Below is a fact sheet. If you would like any more information, I will do
> my best to help or can ask our project's License Working Group to get in
> touch with you.
>
> Regards, Adam Franco
>
>
> *Fact Sheet *
>
> [1] The OpenStreetMap project currently has over 750,000 registered
> contributors worldwide. Our main website is http://www.openstreetmap.org
>
> [2] We are mandated to make our geodata available in perpetuity under a
> free and open licence. We are not allowed to use a commercial license, but
> commercial organisations are allowed to use our data under similar terms.
>
> [3] Our data is currently published under the Open Database License 1.0,
> http://www.opendatacommons.org/licenses/odbl/
>
> [4] Most of our geodata is contributed by individuals. However, we are
> very grateful when able to incorporate or derive from other geo-data
> datasets where license terms are compatible.
>
> [5] We formally attribute all such sources at
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Attribution, using any specific
> wording if you request. We also try to provide a link to this page with any
> extract of data from our database. However, for reasons of practicality, we
> do not require end-users to repeat such attribution since it runs into
> hundreds.
>
> [6] We also keep a public track of third party data use at
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import/Catalogue and usually have a
> project page for each dataset, describing how we use it and whether there
> are any license restrictions to be aware of.
>
> [7] If you have any specific legal questions, the OpenStreetMap
> Foundation's License Working Group can be reached at
> legal at osmfoundation.org and will be glad to help.
>
And this is what I got back:
> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
> From: Adams, John E. <John.E.Adams at vermont.gov>
> Date: Thu, Sep 21, 2017 at 10:34 AM
> Subject: RE: Vermont/VCGI data usage in OpenStreetMap
> To: adamfranco at gmail.com <adamfranco at gmail.com>
> Cc: Pelch, Leslie <Leslie.Pelch at vermont.gov>, Brown, Ivan <
> Ivan.Brown at vermont.gov>
>
>
> Hi Adam,
>
> The State of Vermont Center for Geographic Information has no objections
> to geodata derived in part from data-sets published by the Vermont Center
> for Geographic Information in the Vermont Open Geodata Portal being
> incorporated into the OpenStreetMap project geodata database and released
> under a free and open license.
>
> Regards,
>
> John
>
>
>
> *John E. Adams **AICP*
>
> Director* | *Vermont Center for Geographic Information
>
> State of Vermont
> 1 National Life Dr, Deane C. Davis Bldg, 6th Floor | Montpelier, VT
> 05620-0501
> 802-522-0172
> vcgi.vermont.gov
>
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