[Talk-us] National Forest refs/names

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That seems sensible. What about the general case (i.e. no continuity
with a county road?) - to add "road" or not?

On 2020/07/30 7:09, Paul Johnson wrote:
> I'd generally include the whole name including "Road" in that case.
> 
> On Wed, Jul 29, 2020 at 5:03 PM <tj-osmwiki at lowsnr.net
> <mailto:tj-osmwiki at lowsnr.net>> wrote:
> 
>     Quick question for clarification.
> 
>     The US Forest Roads overlay in JOSM shows the name of forest roads
>     without "Road"; e.g. "Burton Creek B". Should the suffix "road" be added
>     or is it redundant and a waste of bytes? (Sometimes there may be
>     continuity from, say, a County Road with e.g. "Burton Creek Road",
>     though.)
> 
>     Mark.
> 
>     On 2020/07/30 2:55, Paul Johnson wrote:
>     > Alright, I think we have a consensus forming.  Someone want to update
>     > the wiki?
>     >
>     > On Wed, Jul 29, 2020 at 12:30 PM Evin Fairchild
>     <evindfair at gmail.com <mailto:evindfair at gmail.com>
>     > <mailto:evindfair at gmail.com <mailto:evindfair at gmail.com>>> wrote:
>     >
>     >     I'm also in favor of this change. It's a route number, so it only
>     >     should be in the ref tag. This will make Forest service roads more
>     >     consistent with other numbered routes. Even though most, if
>     not all,
>     >     Forest service roads don't have a name but just a number, I
>     still am
>     >     in favor of this. I was a bit surprised that the wiki was
>     saying to
>     >     keep the road number in the name.
>     >
>     >     In fact, the names that most of these forest service roads have
>     >     don't even match common parlance. Most people refer to them as
>     >     "Forest Service Road XX" whereas the TIGER import called them
>     >     "National Forest Development Road XX," which might be the official
>     >     name, but not the most common name.
>     >
>     >     -Evin
>     >
>     >
>     >     On Wed, Jul 29, 2020, 6:47 AM Mike Thompson
>     <miketho16 at gmail.com <mailto:miketho16 at gmail.com>
>     >     <mailto:miketho16 at gmail.com <mailto:miketho16 at gmail.com>>> wrote:
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     >         On Tue, Jul 28, 2020 at 1:33 PM Paul Johnson
>     >         <baloo at ursamundi.org <mailto:baloo at ursamundi.org>
>     <mailto:baloo at ursamundi.org <mailto:baloo at ursamundi.org>>> wrote:
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     >             Could we get the US Road Tagging page updated to reflect
>     >             common name practice instead of encouraging the
>     duplication
>     >             of the ref in the name?  Or is that going to spark drama?
>     >
>     >         I am in favor of the change.  The name tag should be for the
>     >         name only.
>     >
>     >         Mike
>     >
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