[Talk-us] National Forest refs/names

[Paul Johnson]

Could we get some examples of what you mean?

On Wed, Jul 29, 2020 at 5:26 PM <tj-osmwiki at lowsnr.net> wrote:

> That seems sensible. What about the general case (i.e. no continuity
> with a county road?) - to add "road" or not?
>
> On 2020/07/30 7:09, Paul Johnson wrote:
> > I'd generally include the whole name including "Road" in that case.
> >
> > On Wed, Jul 29, 2020 at 5:03 PM <tj-osmwiki at lowsnr.net
> > <mailto:tj-osmwiki at lowsnr.net>> wrote:
> >
> >     Quick question for clarification.
> >
> >     The US Forest Roads overlay in JOSM shows the name of forest roads
> >     without "Road"; e.g. "Burton Creek B". Should the suffix "road" be
> added
> >     or is it redundant and a waste of bytes? (Sometimes there may be
> >     continuity from, say, a County Road with e.g. "Burton Creek Road",
> >     though.)
> >
> >     Mark.
> >
> >     On 2020/07/30 2:55, Paul Johnson wrote:
> >     > Alright, I think we have a consensus forming.  Someone want to
> update
> >     > the wiki?
> >     >
> >     > On Wed, Jul 29, 2020 at 12:30 PM Evin Fairchild
> >     <evindfair at gmail.com <mailto:evindfair at gmail.com>
> >     > <mailto:evindfair at gmail.com <mailto:evindfair at gmail.com>>> wrote:
> >     >
> >     >     I'm also in favor of this change. It's a route number, so it
> only
> >     >     should be in the ref tag. This will make Forest service roads
> more
> >     >     consistent with other numbered routes. Even though most, if
> >     not all,
> >     >     Forest service roads don't have a name but just a number, I
> >     still am
> >     >     in favor of this. I was a bit surprised that the wiki was
> >     saying to
> >     >     keep the road number in the name.
> >     >
> >     >     In fact, the names that most of these forest service roads have
> >     >     don't even match common parlance. Most people refer to them as
> >     >     "Forest Service Road XX" whereas the TIGER import called them
> >     >     "National Forest Development Road XX," which might be the
> official
> >     >     name, but not the most common name.
> >     >
> >     >     -Evin
> >     >
> >     >
> >     >     On Wed, Jul 29, 2020, 6:47 AM Mike Thompson
> >     <miketho16 at gmail.com <mailto:miketho16 at gmail.com>
> >     >     <mailto:miketho16 at gmail.com <mailto:miketho16 at gmail.com>>>
> wrote:
> >     >
> >     >
> >     >
> >     >         On Tue, Jul 28, 2020 at 1:33 PM Paul Johnson
> >     >         <baloo at ursamundi.org <mailto:baloo at ursamundi.org>
> >     <mailto:baloo at ursamundi.org <mailto:baloo at ursamundi.org>>> wrote:
> >     >
> >     >
> >     >
> >     >             Could we get the US Road Tagging page updated to
> reflect
> >     >             common name practice instead of encouraging the
> >     duplication
> >     >             of the ref in the name?  Or is that going to spark
> drama?
> >     >
> >     >         I am in favor of the change.  The name tag should be for
> the
> >     >         name only.
> >     >
> >     >         Mike
> >     >
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