[Talk-us] Stay-Healthy Streets in Seattle do not appear to be Living Streets
Mateusz Konieczny
matkoniecz at tutanota.com
Mon Jun 1 09:43:09 UTC 2020
May 31, 2020, 22:50 by joseph.eisenberg at gmail.com:
> Some mappers have suggested using highway=living_street for streets in Seattle (and perhaps elsewhere) which temporarily have through-traffic restricted for motor vehicles. However, this appears to be incorrect usage of the tag.
>
For what is worth, for me primary meaning of highway=living_street is that pedestrian have legal
priority over vehicles and are allowed to use entire street, while motor vehicles
are still generally allowed.
So pedestrian may walk in any way and vehicles are obligated to yield to any and
all pedestrians.
>
> According to the announcement by SDOT, the streets in the Stay-Healthy Streets program have a speed limit of 32 kph (20 mph), much higher than the maximum for a Living Street (20 kmh to "walking speed"). It appears that the legal change is that these streets are now motor_vehicle=destination, with through-traffic prohibited, but they are not Living Streets according to the description in this page or at Wikipedia:
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Is there any other change? Because "no transit for motor vehicles, 32 km/h speed limit"
is well tagged with motor_vehicle=destination and maxspeed, not highway=living_street
And how temporary this is? 5 days? 2 weeks? 2 months? Nobody knows?
If just for 5 days I am dubious about tagging this at all.
> The streets in Seattle have street parking along their whole lengths, and there are no design changes compared to other highway=residential streets in the city, except for signage / paint.
>
In Poland we use that for roads signed with
https://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strefa_zamieszkania#/media/Plik:Znak_D-40.svg
that has a legal meaning, even if street is designed like any other highway=living_street,
and street designed like living street without it would not be marked as highway=living_street
without that sign.
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