[Talk-us] Opinions on Devil's Slide Bunker (San Mateo, CA)

[Frederik Ramm]

Thank you all for your comments.

I have now added access=no to the paths leading up to the site, and
changed the site from tourism=viewpoint to military=bunker with an
access=no added to the site for good measure. (Though historic=ruins
would probably be as appropriate.)

I have also changed the name from "Post-WWII observation point" to
"Devil's Slide Bunker" which seems to be the commonly used name (and
anyway the previous name was not a name but a description).

There's a catalogue of bunker types on the wiki page and if anyone is in
the mood, feel free to add the correct one.

I think that in this particular case, even if the object is de-facto a
tourist destination, tagging it as such invites too much
misunderstanding (at least at a time when OSM data consumers, including
our own OSM-Carto rendering, are generally not sophisticated enough to
suppress advertising a tourist=* object when paired with access=no).

The discussion has shown that some of you share this opinion and some
would prefer to call a tourist spot a tourist spot even if illegal. I
think that a nuanced approach is probably approriate; having the
occasional illegal viewpoint on the map is not a big issue but in this
particular case we have a fat sign directly at the site telling people
to stay away, plus the site isn't off the beaten track but in a
tourist-y area so a big tourist symbol on the map could tempt many to
stop and look.

I hope this is something people can live with. You're welcome to
continue this discussion and if the community should come to a general
agreement about how to tag tourist attractions with no access then I'm
happy to see this changed.

Bye
Frederik

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