[Talk-us] place=neighborhood on subdivisions?

[Paul Johnson]

On Tue, Sep 22, 2020 at 9:27 PM stevea <steveaOSM at softworkers.com> wrote:

> On Sep 22, 2020, at 7:05 PM, Clifford Snow <clifford at snowandsnow.us>
> wrote:
> > For example, in Seattle I lived in the Wallingford Neighborhood. Seattle
> has defined boundaries for each of the neighborhoods. In other areas,
> neighborhoods are roughly defined by people living there. In those cases
> using a place= tag makes more sense.
>
> Clifford:  One more thing.  Several summers ago, I lived at / house sat at
> my sister's house in the Magnolia suburb of Seattle.  I believe I mapped
> fairly well the little "village downtown" there (it was walking distance,
> as a nice suburb or neighborhood might be) as a hobby after I fed her cats,
> I'd have to check OSM data history I think summer of 2012.
>
> But you'll notice that suburbs (not Neighborhoods, as you call them) of
> Seattle are tagged in OSM as place=suburb.  (And it wasn't simply me who
> has done that, I think I only did it once or twice for Magnolia and maybe
> Ballard).  In a larger city like Seattle, this seems about right.  I don't
> like disagreeing with a friend like you about where you have lived (and all
> I did was feed my sister's cat for a few weeks, and I do love Seattle) but
> I think the jury is in about Seattle suburbs in OSM, and they are tagged
> suburb.  Does Wallingford or Ballard or Magnolia get called a neighborhood
> in local vernacular?  Sure, I don't doubt it:  you just did so yourself!
> But in OSM tagging, which is I think what we're trying to better agree
> upon, I think the tagging of place=suburb on these is correct.
>

In terms of Seattle, I don't think Ballard or Magnolia are a suburb.
They're more of a neighborhood, both subordinate to Seattle.  Mercer Island
or Bellvue are more suburbs as they're their own cities but really wouldn't
matter or properly stand on their own without Seattle being in the
immediate vicinity.  Note that place=city, place=neighborhood and
place=suburb are all extant tags in common use already.
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