[Talk-us] While we're fixing things in iterations

[Mateusz Konieczny]

Sep 24, 2020, 01:00 by baloo at ursamundi.org:

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> On Wed, Sep 23, 2020 at 5:56 PM Andy Townsend <> ajt1047 at gmail.com> > wrote:
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>> On 23/09/2020 23:01, Paul Johnson      wrote:
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>>> On Wed, Sep 23, 2020 at 4:37            PM stevea <>>> steveaOSM at softworkers.com>>> >            wrote:
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>>>> Paul Johnson <>>>> baloo at ursamundi.org>>>> > wrote: 
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>>>> > 2. Tagging route information on ways.  It's about a            decade too long at this point for ref=* on a way to be            completely disconnected from the entity the tag applies to:             That's why route relations exist.  Biggest problem child on            this at the moment:  OSM's own tilesets.  Let's drop            rendering for ref=* on ways and just render the route            relations already, this and multipolygons are why relations            came to exist in the first place.
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>>>>  Yes, 100% agreement.  I think this is simply pure inertia            (the kind that says "broken process") on the part of            renderers.
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>>>>  Can anybody (renderer authors included, maybe even            especially) are welcome to offer reasons why "the old            machinery" remains in place?  Are there legacy use cases            that remain unclear to the wider community?  Please tell us            here, if so.
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>> The US is unusual in that it doesn't have a single ref per      section of road.  Most places in OSM map what they see on the      ground, and the current OSM Carto rendering works just fine for      them
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> Right up until there's more than one kind of route on the way. 
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As far as I can see it also works fine, 
see say https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=17/50.08717/19.80950 
with ref=A4;7 and ref=S52;7

And in places where this rendering breaks due to large number of refs, rendering
from relations would also break

Rendering from ref on road and ref from relation would be displayed in exactly the same way,
so if current display is bad it would not be fixed by changing to rendering from relations


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