[Talk-us] place=neighborhood on subdivisions?

[Minh Nguyen]

Vào lúc 11:02 2020-09-23, stevea đã viết:
> On Sep 23, 2020, at 10:51 AM, Brian Stromberg <brian.stromberg at gmail.com> wrote:
>> A short question of a lengthy response: What is the history behind that definition of 'suburb'? Is it a result of the term being used that way in UK/Europe/elsewhere? Seems like an odd usage, since "suburbs" have had a very clear definition in the United States for decades now, and it has nothing to do with neighborhoods.
> 
> I believe it is UK-derived, as are many OSM "definitions" (usually / often clarified in wiki for that key).

If I'm not mistaken, the definition on the wiki seems to align more 
closely with the meaning of "suburb" in Australian English, in which 
it's understood to be anywhere within the city, even near the central 
business district. [1] place=suburb was originally proposed by an 
Australian mapper in 2006. [2] Also, around early 2008, Australia jumped 
from 7.8% to 29% of global place=suburb usage, which could have helped 
to reinforce that definition. [3]

The wiki says place=suburb is "in a place=town or place=city", but that 
doesn't necessarily say it has to lie within the administrative boundary 
that contains the place=town/city as a label. place=town/city is mapped 
as a POI, not as an area with distinct boundaries. But even so, it is 
pretty far from how Americans associate suburbs with distinct 
incorporated municipalities or unincorporated areas on the outskirts of 
the city.

[1] https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/suburb#English
[2] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Special:Diff/55503
[3] https://ohsome.org/apps/dashboard/

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