[Talk-us] Recent Trunk road edits

Jack Burke burkejf3 at gmail.com
Mon Sep 28 18:21:57 UTC 2020


On Mon, Sep 28, 2020 at 12:02 PM Paul Johnson <baloo at ursamundi.org> wrote:
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> On Mon, Sep 28, 2020 at 10:42 AM Jack Burke <burkejf3 at gmail.com> wrote:
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>> On Monday, September 28, 2020, Paul Johnson <baloo at ursamundi.org> wrote:
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>> Georgia 400 is a grade-separated, divided, high-speed freeway from its southern endpoint at I 85, all the way to where it meets GA 369 near Coal Mountain, 37 miles later. From there, it's an at-grade, divided, high-speed (mostly 65mph, with short sections of 55mph in denser areas) highway with extremely long straight sections and other sections with high-speed curves, until it ends at GA 60 just outside Dahlonega, 16 miles past Coal Mountain.
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> Yeah, not looking very hard at this so don't know if I missed any at-grade intersections looking at Maxar/Mapbox. I'd call that a motorway pretty solidly from I 85 to GA 306 and a trunk north of that to GA 60.  Looks like it turns into GA 115 at GA 60, didn't trace that further but I'd call GA 60 a secondary.

I would call your assessment spot-on, except with a disagreement that
the motorway should end at GA 306 (I think it's fine classified that
way all the way to GA 369).  But that really comes down to individual
preference.  I'm certainly not going to try to argue with someone over
it.  (For reference, my rational for choosing 396 is because that's
where the overhead sign is declaring "signal ahead, prepare to stop.")


>> GA 515 begins life where I 575 ends, at Ball Ground. From there, it is a grade-separated, divided, high-speed (mostly 65mph, with a few sections of 55mph, and a couple of 45mph when it passes through Ellijay and Blue Ridge) freeway that travels north to Blue Ridge, almost at the Tennessee border, where it arcs eastward and continues to Blairsville.  That's 63 miles of divided high-speed goodness. There it finally becomes an undivided highway that continues on to Young Harris, "ending" a few miles past there. GA 515 was upgraded to its dual-carriageway status about 30 years ago as part of the Appalachian development highway program.
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> Looking at the same imagery as above, yeah, I'd call I 575 a trunk north of Howell Bridge Road and GA 515 a trunk from I 575 until the south end of Blue Ridge, where the single carriageway through town is primary (it stops being an expressway and becomes a boulevard for a bit), and then picks back up as trunk on the north end of town before going primary again at Blairsville.

Again, spot-on, except I'd leave the undivided section through Blue
Ridge as trunk.  (Why?  Because it's so short, and is there really a
need to classify it lower there?)


>> All of these, and others, were highway=trunk until floridaeditor decided to downgrade them (and challenge anyone to change them back)
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> So far it seems like floridaeditor is the exact opposite of NE2 (who smashed everything in network=US:US to highway=trunk even if it's not an expressway or super-two freeway, something we're still cleaning up particularly in the midwest and Texas).  Given NE2 was also in Flordia, I wouldn't rule out it's the same person.

I never dealt with NE2 directly, since I started after his banishment,
but I have come across a lot of his work.  Some of it I do have to
tilt my head sideways at, but there have been quite a few things he
did that I thought were pretty good.  But that notwithstanding, this
person is going the exact opposite direction with his edits.  Can they
really be the same person?

--jack



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