[Talk-us] Mass Change of Highway Classification in Larimer County Colorado

Clifford Snow clifford at snowandsnow.us
Wed May 5 00:07:34 UTC 2021


To think this thread started with a user changing road classifications most
likely just based on traffic counts when we can't even reach a consensus.

Mike - You might want to point the user to this thread to show how little
we agree on highway classifications in the US>

On Tue, May 4, 2021 at 4:40 PM Evin Fairchild <evindfair at gmail.com> wrote:

> No, we only care about physical characteristics when it comes to
> motorways. According to the wiki, *only* motorways are defined by physical
> characteristics; everything from trunk on down is defined by importance.
> After all, that's what the words trunk, primary, secondary mean--they refer
> to how important something is. It really would be nice if we could agree to
> harmonize the US' tagging standards for trunk to be based on importance.
>
> On Tue, May 4, 2021, 4:27 PM Paul Johnson <baloo at ursamundi.org> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, May 4, 2021 at 6:21 PM Brian M. Sperlongano
>> <zelonewolf at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > On Tue, May 4, 2021 at 7:09 PM Paul Johnson <baloo at ursamundi.org>
>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Off the top of my head we break our own rules about "interstates must
>> >> always be motorway" even when they're not freaking motorways in
>> >> Alaska, where Interstates and parts of the NHS are definitely unpaved
>> >
>> >
>> > This is a ridiculous argument, "interstates" in Alaska are paper
>> entities only, and are not even signed on the ground.  Let's use a little
>> common sense here, actual signed interstate highways in the other 49 states
>> are clearly motorways.  Yes, there are a few minor divergences from
>> Interstate standards, such as I-93 in Franconia Notch or the H-1/H-201
>> split on Oahu, but these are not significant enough to degrade their
>> motorway classification.
>>
>> Not particularly.  It still suggests we care more about
>> characteristics than what the NHS has it listed as.  Let's keep things
>> the way they have been with motorway being controlled access, trunk
>> being expressway and everything below that roughly subjective based on
>> network, size and character like we have been.  It works.  Well, save
>> for motorway, people tend to extend that to at-grade intersections
>> when that really violates the definition of a freeway in the first
>> place, but close enough.
>>
>

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