[Talk-us] US Trunk road tagging

Paul Johnson baloo at ursamundi.org
Wed May 5 23:58:58 UTC 2021


Problem is, Oklahoma builds things aspirationally, sometimes things
get built because industry needs it for a relatively short section.
33 does this in a couple places near Cushing where oilfield traffic is
high and a smaller road would get congested, but past that, there's
not a huge level of traffic or demand for a larger road.  The same
road is awesome for a few miles and then turns into a minor highway
because industry or residences don't need something bigger farther
out.  We're a very strangely settled state.

Major state highways get upgraded to trunks by the state pretty
consistently.  The minor ones tend to stay minor.

On Wed, May 5, 2021 at 6:54 PM Evin Fairchild <evindfair at gmail.com> wrote:
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> That particular example on that screenshot is particularly bad, since the undivided part of that route is secondary. It would probably look a bit better if you changed the secondary segments to primary. After all, if it's a "major state highway" as you say it is, it should definitely be tagged as primary. A minor, less important state highway can be secondary but this seems like it ought to be at least primary given that there's some sections that are expressway.
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> On Wed, May 5, 2021, 4:47 PM Paul Johnson <baloo at ursamundi.org> wrote:
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>> On Wed, May 5, 2021 at 4:15 PM MoiraPrime <MoiraPrime at pm.me> wrote:
>> >
>> > Why do you keep bringing up "ground truth" on a discussion about road importance.
>> >
>> > If anything doesn't reflect ground truth, it's a road going back and forth between secondary and trunk on a rural stretch of Oklahoma state highway merely because the state decided to divide a couple sections of it. This is absurd. A road should not change importance like this.
>>
>> I'm not the one who built a major highway as multiple segments of
>> short expressways when all it needs is a two lane with an occasional
>> climbing lane.  Blame ODOT on that.
>>
>> > https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/471231102380408832/839399260348088330/unknown.png
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>> Not clicking discord links when we have MIME attachments.
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