[Talk-us] Change sets covering entire US?

Brian M. Sperlongano zelonewolf at gmail.com
Mon Nov 8 12:47:46 UTC 2021


Frederick,

I am never sure in your messages to this list whether you are posting with
your DWG hat on or just providing the opinion of a single mapper in
southwest Germany.  If you're posting on behalf of the DWG, please say so.
If not, please, consider resisting the urge to immediately fire off a
response, especially when most of the US is sleeping and hasn't had the
opportunity to weigh in.  Frankly, it often feels like you're pushing an
agenda and trying to drive the direction of community debate.  I assure
you, the US community is perfectly capable of reporting problem edits to
the DWG when action is needed.

On Mon, Nov 8, 2021 at 5:47 AM Frederik Ramm <frederik at remote.org> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> On 08.11.21 04:50, Tod Fitch wrote:
> > Change set 113500241 [1] showed up in my RSS feed today. I have mixed
> feelings about adding name:en=* values for all cities in the US but I guess
> it makes some sense.
>
> It is a mechanical edit that probably violates our rules. Because
> mechanical edits have the potential to be useless/problematic on a
> larger scale than a random newbie edit, there is a requirement that they
> be discussed before execution.
>
> In this particular case, a discussion might have led to the advice to
> either shelve the idea altogether, or run the script in smaller batches
> - that's why I assume no discussion has taken place.
>
> Personally, I think that any sane data processing pipeline will revert
> to using "name" when the particular name it wants to use (e.g.
> "name:en") is not defined, so in my opinion this edit adds zero value,
> and instead has created hundreds of new versions of objects (and makes
> every future version of these objects larger by one unnecessary tag).
>
> A frequent problem with mechanical edits like this is also that, because
> the individual object is not looked at, some random city created
> somewhere by a vandal is given a boost in credibility ("hm, this has
> been edited by three people in the course of two years, surely if it
> were fiction, one of them would have noticed...?").
>
> Bye
> Frederik
>
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