[Talk-us] Name tag on unnamed, but numbered routes
Paul Johnson
baloo at ursamundi.org
Fri Nov 19 18:40:27 UTC 2021
On Fri, Nov 19, 2021 at 2:27 AM Minh Nguyen <minh at nguyen.cincinnati.oh.us>
wrote:
> Vào lúc 18:04 2021-11-16, Martijn van Exel đã viết:
> > I'd prefer to stick to the convention of mapping what's on the ground,
> > i.e., if there's no name signposted, then don't include a name tag,
> > where there are signposts, mappers should feel free to add that as a
> name.
>
> And map the signs as traffic_sign=US:D3-1 or US:D3-1a! :-D
>
> > I have a feeling that there are very few truly nameless state / US
> > highways; there are usually abutting homes, businesses -- they have
> > addresses. Counties or cities will signpost them.
>
> In most rural areas, that street name in the address would tend to be a
> systematic name like "State Route 15 North", which a data consumer can't
> rehydrate from a ref=SR 15, so there's no way to completely avoid ever
> putting a systematic name in name=*. (The "North" here refers to a
> quadrant in the county's street address scheme, not to the northbound
> direction.)
>
I think we're conflating name=* on the road with addr:street=* on the thing
with an address. These often don't match when the postal service disagrees
with the local authorities on what to call a road, or when the road isn't
named. This isn't really something that a validator can easily check in an
automated fashion, but it is something that editors can and should tell the
validator to ignore on a case by case basis.
> To complicate matters, correspondents might refer to the same road by
> variations such as "North State Route 15", "State Route 15", "State Road
> 15", "SR 15", "Route 15", "Highway 15", etc. It's possible that street
> name signs may bear all these variations inconsistently, or that none of
> them would be posted because shields are posted instead.
>
addr:street=* should go by what emergency services and/or the postal
service use. Consumers can probably fuzzy match from there.
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